problem with my ladder

[Nahuel]

[Baker]

I don't claim to know how to solve complaints about how the ExtraR4 ladders work. But want to point out a couple of alternate implementations of ladders :

[ 1) The ladders in Rubicon 2. Although I do not feel those are as intuitive. http://www.celephais.net/levels/files/r ... ec_src.zip I would assume that Metslime didn't use ExtrasR4 ladders for a reason, but don't claim to know what that would be. 2) Poking around in Xonotic git repository and see how they do ladders ... http://dev.xonotic.org/projects/3/wiki/Git ... but since you stated you aren't using DarkPlaces I do not believe that'd be an option.]

[Nahuel]

[Seven]

Hello Nahuel,

I once had a similar issue like you have now.
You say, that you dont use DP, so the .vector movement is no option (just as you said).

But Spike gave me another way to detect it.
Please read here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4236

I hope this helps you a bit.
Have fun climbing ladders

Best wishes,
Seven

[Nahuel]

thanks Seven, but that does not work. I do not know where is exactly the problem. I guess I should use something other than v_forward (or v_right) * self.velocity.
perhaps using "makevectors (self.angles)" but the truth is that I do not know how.

[goldenboy]

Using clip brushes to simulate ladders is an age old trick that works in all engines.

Tbh I think that DP and FTE should be fixed to accept the extras ladder code - it's a problem with their physics.

[metlslime]

[Spike]

the extra's ladder code a) setorigins the player into solid walls. b) requires that the server ticks over at a fixed and low 20 fps.

putting the player into solid walls is silly, as it'll just be moved out again (potentially jerky even in vanilla). requiring a fixed framerate can also fail with non-default cvar settings even in vanilla engines (and has never been reliable with quakeworld's defaults).
its not bug-free just because it appears to work in winquake. You could fix it with tracebox+frametime checks (I admit that not all engines have tracebox, thus fte's unsticking code is now more aggressive than any other qw engine purely to attempt to work around extras' ladder code).