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Posted by underworldfan [172.196.97.192] on 2003/05/05 19:08:36

note: this was posted by FrikaC over at Inside 3D, i thought it would be useful for us here as i know a number of you are planning to hopefully release stuff, and also to have a thread for Qexpo 2003 here. Its all his stuff, i am just copying and pasting and being of service. I suggest you contact him (FrikaC) directly with any questions you have. [UWF]
http://forums.inside3d.com/showfla...
FrikaC
4/26/03 18:57
Quake Expo 2003: The Plan
The projected time period of the event is July 6th thru July 12th, 2003.
The site and booths will be hosted on www.qexpo.com
The site design will be selected by nane, designer of the original site. He has a few choices to choose from, but I suspect he will choose his own (new) design.
The booth script is being done by SantaClaws. I am relying on you Santa, wherever you are, I would like a report of your progress.
The event will focus on Quake 1 and Quake 1 based games exclusively.
This so far is all that has been decided.

Hmm...
#1 posted by Gom Jabbar [212.93.3.169] on 2003/05/06 03:54:03
This would be a good excuse to delay the release of the map(s) I'm working on even longer....
YAY! Long live QExpo! ;)
Bah
#2 posted by Vondur [195.128.65.237] on 2003/05/06 06:55:44
i`m forced to do things now :)
Vondur
#3 posted by nitin [61.9.128.173] on 2003/05/06 07:18:23
if you release anything, I`ll be forced to play it :)
Lol
#4 posted by Abyss [203.51.223.74] on 2003/05/06 07:27:05
"if you release anything, I`ll be forced to play it :)"
Me too !!
:)
#5 posted by Vondur [195.128.65.237] on 2003/05/06 07:34:34
actually i hope to be ready for july, so, polish your mousepads, duders :>
but if i fail, i`ll suck officially....
Heh
#6 posted by nitin [61.9.128.173] on 2003/05/06 08:42:53
dont worry, I`m polishing my keyboard :)
Gah
#7 posted by Vodka [81.3.153.126] on 2003/05/06 22:22:15
where u got polish mousepad, from missYou ?
. nitin is a lowly keyboard player !
Reminder For Vondur....
#8 posted by Stubgaard [212.242.51.141] on 2003/05/07 17:00:01
Remember to make your new map speedrunning friendly! We crave for your map on SDA :-)
Stubbz
#9 posted by Vondur [195.128.65.237] on 2003/05/08 07:13:32
i do remember that, and i remember that you`ll betatest it by your hot heels ... :)
Oh My Oh My....
#10 posted by Stubgaard [212.242.51.141] on 2003/05/08 12:58:27
Elite! :-)
...
#11 posted by Shambler [213.40.131.65] on 2003/05/10 04:36:24
I`m polishing my dome.
Shamb
#12 posted by wrath [217.211.83.31] on 2003/05/10 07:23:35
I dont care what you call it, just put it back into your pants.
Haha
#13 posted by Wazat [144.38.161.186] on 2003/05/12 16:09:51
lol wrath.
For QExpo, I've got Soldat, Battle Mech, and Galactix definately coming out, as well as whatever other projects happen to get worked on.
We have a site design concept to show off, if you're interested:
http://www.planetquake.com/starbuc...
Who knows what's been decided beyond that though.
We've also got some Quake comics that will be released during the event. Here's one that's doing well and I'm particularly fond of:
http://forums.inside3d.com/showfla...
I'm really looking forward to you guys' releases during QExpo. Y'all have always provided excellent maps in the past, and your contributions to the event will be very desirable!
.
#14 posted by underworldfan [172.139.247.89] on 2003/05/23 12:02:35
*bump*
#15 posted by scar3crow [216.80.147.88] on 2003/05/23 12:22:59
thanks for the bump underworldfan, i myself want to keep this in the minds of all the quakers out there who are actually productive, and then us folk who like to enjoy others productivity =)
Scar3crow
#16 posted by underworldfan [172.139.247.89] on 2003/05/23 13:02:23
are you new to the quake community i havent seen your name around before?
Or are you just someone i might have heard of *lurking behind* [like a fiend lurks behind a door] an unfamiliar name? =)
#17 posted by scar3crow [216.80.147.88] on 2003/05/23 13:20:52
im new as in posting here, but i hang around #qc on irc, have been since it was #botepidemic, and i post on inside3d some, i also used to post at the ai cafe when it had a messageboard. im usually quiet, but ive been keeping an eye around on things since mid 96 =)
playing the test versions on me old 486 at the time. Ive been scar3crow the whole time, but Im one of those people who cant seem to settle into a particular editor, and has no problem with thinking like a coder, but cant seem to learn syntax properly. and as customary with me, as anyone in #qc or at i3d will tell you, dont cap the s in my nick (im a stickler for the asthetics of its flow =)
Scar3crow's Been Here For Ages
#18 posted by Wazat [205.126.64.166] on 2003/05/24 19:27:07
We've been trying to corner him and make him release something but he just likes to play. And that's actually good, since we like beta-testers with good sense (the pickins is slim these days).
Speaking of which, scar3crow, I'd love to get your personal opinion on some of my QExpo mods, namingly Battle Mech, Galactix, and Soldat.
E-mail me at static_void @ hotmail DOT com if you're interested. (BTW, I only get to check e-mail once a week during summer, so don't worry if I don't reply before Wednesday).
Anyone interested in playing or mapping for these mods please contact me (QExpo rapidly aproacheth). I'll give you a good little beta and some thorough mapping entity documentation.
BAH
#19 posted by . [172.151.20.67] on 2003/05/25 04:32:26
The design for QEXPO is nice, but remove the trendwhore .:
And the collage at the top right should go unless it were to be done better.. don't ask me how because then I'd have to elaborate and I'd end up redesigning the entire site :\
Likin' the logo...
#20 posted by Kell [82.41.48.30] on 2003/05/25 05:28:34
You mean the corporate conference looking design? I hate it, tbh. The last thing I want for a Quake 1 celebratory event is for it to look 'sleek' and 'trendy'. It's Quake ffs; it should look like...Quake.
:P
Well Its All Going Anyway....
#21 posted by starbuck [80.192.123.134] on 2003/05/25 06:51:19
Because
#22 posted by starbuck [80.192.123.134] on 2003/05/25 06:59:08
I made the above site without knowing that nane had already made a design for the expo, i've put it up here:
http://www.planetquake.com/starbuc...
i like it better than mine anyway :)
though i would have liked it if the logo i made got used
...
#23 posted by underworldfan [172.169.118.72] on 2003/05/25 12:25:52
nane's design is excellent, i have a feeling Kell will like it too. =)
Nanes Design
#24 posted by . [172.173.154.38] on 2003/05/25 21:53:55
Is much more suited. Tho, theres bevels on the top and bottom metal curves - and not on the side columns. It's good to keep things consistent. I'd also have mouseover color changes on the font links - it's better on the visitors eye/brain.
And being the webwhore I am, I'd of done all that rust by hand, lol.
Oh, not sure about using GIF. They load funky, and a JPG will load quicker. As long as you can find a balance in quality/compression, use JPG.
Yaaaay Nane!
#25 posted by distrans [131.172.4.45] on 2003/05/26 01:57:14
nt
Yeah,
#26 posted by necros [172.137.55.47] on 2003/05/27 18:03:22
that's a really sweet looking layout, nane.
i'm also thinking about releasing a ss2 themed map for qexpo... but i'm not sure about that...
Ooh
#27 posted by starbuck [80.192.123.134] on 2003/05/27 19:39:07
that sounds very cool actually :)
#28 posted by Vodka [81.3.153.239] on 2003/05/27 23:46:29
both sites are nice, even if the techy look is not very suitable for quake event.
necros : I was also inspired by sysshock, but I think quake gameplay is too different and setting a scenerio similar to shock in a quake map could not work, mostly because of the players mentality.
#29 posted by Vodka [81.3.153.239] on 2003/05/27 23:46:32
both sites are nice, even if the techy look is not very suitable for quake event.
necros : I was also inspired by sysshock, but I think quake gameplay is too different and setting a scenerio similar to shock in a quake map could not work, mostly because of the players mentality.
Well...
#30 posted by necros [172.142.6.80] on 2003/05/28 17:55:59
i was thinking of doing something like that map for quake which i don't remember the name to. the one where you wake up to fix something on your ship, then go back to sleep, only to wake up again when everything is going to hell.
or a bit like that Hl map Darkstar.
You Mean This One?
#31 posted by R.P.G. [24.136.232.42] on 2003/05/28 17:58:13
CasSPQ1: Hell in a Can
http://www.planetquake.com/teamsha...
That's The One!
#32 posted by necros [172.142.6.80] on 2003/05/28 18:06:22
what a great map. :)
Hell In A Can
#33 posted by metlslime [207.111.214.194] on 2003/05/28 18:14:38
r0x0rz
How Does One Obtain Maps?
#34 posted by Wazat [144.38.161.215] on 2003/05/28 19:27:37
QExpo is fast approaching, and I'm running out of time. Is anyone here interested in mapping for any of these 3 TCs?
Soldat:
http://static.condemned.com/files/...
Galactix:
http://static.condemned.com/files/...
Battle Mech:
http://static.condemned.com/files/...
Please e-mail me at static_void@hotmail.com . I check my mail at least once a week (it would be daily but I'm out of college and don't have net access at home, too expensive in the desert).
Battle Mech and Soldat are the ones needing maps the most. All galactix really needs is skyboxes, and maybe some models for boss ships.
Btw
#35 posted by Wazat [144.38.161.215] on 2003/05/28 19:30:01
Soldat will by far be the easiest to map for. It's 2D (essentially) and has a very simple system.
And sorry that the boosters aren't enabled in the test map. I forgot to take out the grapple hook and change it to boosters for the test release.
You can e-mail me or post here. Though I doubt anyone will be interested. :(
I Could Give Soldat A Shot,
#36 posted by necros [172.142.6.80] on 2003/05/28 19:44:51
although, when i played a version you had uploaded, there were some really strange things, like the monsters not being able to shoot the player, monsters not waking up unless shot, the player model being half the size normal...
if anything, make the player back to normal size, and i'll take a shot at mapping for soldat. i've always wanted to do a sidescroller map.
Descriptions
#37 posted by Wazat [144.38.161.215] on 2003/05/28 19:48:59
Visit http://static.condemned.com for descriptions of the mods.
Also, I just remembered that Soldat's movement code is borked at the moment. It will be much better in the future.
Sorry for the unprecidented triple post.
Necros
#38 posted by Wazat [144.38.161.215] on 2003/05/28 19:55:10
Thanks. The problem with the player size is, that's the size he needs to be relative to the camera. If I make him bigger and zoom out more, the cam is too far back to hear sounds loud enough anymore. :( I'll work on that though. Maybe there's a better way around.
Another thing: If you try walking up to a wall, the right and top sides of the bounding box are too large. Another side affect of being too small.
Yea, the monsters aren't searching for the player yet. That player you see on the screen is actually a dummy player, where the real player is invisible so that the qc code can test his movements, interpret what keys are being pressed, and then hack the movement onto the "puppet" on the play field. It's really quite a miracle that it all works. :)
I'll work on the player size. It's the source of a lot of grief...
Play the original Soldat if you get the chance. It's a great game and it will help you to get a feel for what the maps are like (and what game options are available).
Wazat
#39 posted by R.P.G. [24.136.232.42] on 2003/05/28 20:14:19
I would honestly be interested in helping you out, but I'm just too busy with other maps right now. :(
Wazat:
#40 posted by necros [172.156.153.101] on 2003/05/28 21:26:40
can i suggest:
make all the sounds have a lower attenuation. (just set the attn_static, attn_normal (or whatever) constants to a number smaller than 1 (0.3) that will enable you to hear them from further away.)
then reset the player's size. zoom out.
part of my gripe with the player's size is that it's so far out, that you can't make out any details of the player, and seem very detached from the game... i would actually prefer if the player were regular size at the current camera distance...
Wow, Very Good
#41 posted by starbuck [80.192.123.134] on 2003/05/29 11:45:49
the mod really captures the feel of the real thing. I disagree about the player size complaint, i think it makes it feel all the more soldat-y. The weapons are very good, though I would prefer it if the M79 wasnt affected by gravity quite so much. The Spas-12 was very good especially.
The player had a lot of problems jumping i found...there was a delay, and I couldnt jump while moving. Also, where's the jetpack and the commando rolls? :)
In general though, very cool, very different feel to most mods. I'd be interested in mapping for Soldat, and if you want any skins/textures/artwork doing, then i'd like that even more :)
Thanks All
#42 posted by Wazat [205.126.65.25] on 2003/06/03 15:47:10
I'll work on the player size and see what I can do. Thanks for the suggestions!
The jetpack is missing because I was playing around with a grappling hook, and forgot to change it back to booster. :) The commando rolls and crouching aren't in there yet. I need to find a model with those frames.
Jumping is all screwed up, mostly because there's not a single bit of sense put into the way MOVETYPE_WALK is done in most engines for non-players. If I try to use movetype_walk, the movement works a bit better but bullets stop hitting the player (he becomes non-solid?!), and if I use the hacky bouncy movetype_step system you see now, well... Jumping becomes horrid. I'll have to work on that.
Thanks for the comments.
I've also been working on Battle Mech. I made my own high-r_speeds CTF map and I'm proudly embarrased about it. ;)
RPG: it's understandable. I won't hold it against you (I'm trying to not be like a coder in that respect ;D I'm learning).
Its Getting Closer
#43 posted by Vodka [81.3.153.250] on 2003/06/24 00:01:54
r u ready for teh QEXOP tookeythree ?
It is evile and stuff, and chances are this will be the last ever
schedule for Qexpo 2003.
http://forums.inside3d.com/showfla...
Maybe we want some events and compos?
And you can check http://forums.inside3d.com/showfla... for amusing cheap scandal (some coders demanded they include q2 in qexpo)
Speedmodding?
#44 posted by pushplay [24.86.74.102] on 2003/06/24 01:43:46
:o
Haha
#45 posted by Wazat [144.38.161.213] on 2003/06/25 18:25:07
That q2 thing was pathetic. I'm really glad Ender came along or we'd probably be enemies forever, even though noone else from the q2 community was involved. ;)
I'd love to see some speed modding events! And maybe another 100 brush or 200 brush competition.
My only fear about QExpo coming so quickly is I still need maps for Bmech. But beyond that, I'm ready for it to happen today. Like Christmas. :)
Just In Case Someone's Still Unaware...
#46 posted by distrans [203.36.15.126] on 2003/06/29 21:24:01
FrikaC posted this over at Inside3D:
Go to http://www.qexpo.com to sign up for a booth, (on the left side bar, under Account). Do it. Do it now, timesa wasting folks. There's like 5 days left.
Cool
#47 posted by underworldfan [63.192.100.31] on 2003/06/30 07:46:32
hope i am allowed a booth :o
Also...
#48 posted by underworldfan [63.192.100.31] on 2003/06/30 07:58:10
This is a thread concerning the schedule
for the expo...although you dont HAVE to follow it, its just a suggestion:
http://forums.inside3d.com/showfla...
^_________________^
#49 posted by MisYu [213.76.244.129] on 2003/06/30 12:28:58
Hi guys.
I'd like to release MisSP1, but it's impossible due to both, mine and its suckage, so I'll just release a smalish and sucking q1dm map =)
12 days for MisSP1 is too small, you have to wait for Quake Expo 2004 =)
You Blow Goats Misyu
#50 posted by DaZ [212.159.60.58] on 2003/06/30 17:08:53
My Plans For Quake Expo 2003:
#51 posted by Drannerz [213.123.153.56] on 2003/06/30 18:42:31
I'm not doing anything for it.
You Bastard!
#52 posted by necros [172.169.33.74] on 2003/06/30 20:14:13
... ;)
Oh And Cheers Distrans,
#53 posted by necros [172.169.33.74] on 2003/06/30 20:15:43
for posting the link!
:o we got a super cool domain this time i see! :)
UWF
#54 posted by pushplay [24.86.74.102] on 2003/06/30 21:24:39
You want the maps before qexpo probably, eh?
Always A Pleasure Necros...
#55 posted by distrans [203.36.15.126] on 2003/06/30 23:28:29
Coagula Contest 2 Maps
#56 posted by underworldfan [132.241.114.220] on 2003/07/01 15:05:08
Anyone who wants to send me maps, please do:
underworldfan1@aol.com
Ok
#57 posted by pushplay [24.86.74.102] on 2003/07/01 18:47:21
I've begun my long and painful final compile.
Uwf
#58 posted by Tyrann [203.34.35.230] on 2003/07/01 20:33:23
Are you setting up a booth to release the pak?
Tyrann, Yes ....i Have Signed Up For A Booth
#59 posted by underworldfan [66.122.183.131] on 2003/07/02 13:15:43
however i am very busy in "real life" at present so i am not quite sure how/when things will go.
I should be able to find some time though, to do a decent booth for the Expo. =)
Umm...
#60 posted by pushplay [24.86.74.102] on 2003/07/02 23:55:32
My vising has been at 32% for over 24 hours now. Is that a bad sign?
That Is A Coagula Sign
#61 posted by Tyrann [203.34.35.230] on 2003/07/03 02:59:56
Qexpo Speedmapping
#62 posted by Preach [217.39.4.155] on 2003/07/04 12:39:40
Just a heads up for all you mappers, there are two speedmapping events being run during Qexpo. The first will be a SP quake turtlemap, from saturday til friday, and the theme will be announced on the saturday. The second will be a MP speedmap, on the friday evening. That way, both competitions should be finished in time for the maps to be released during Qexpo. Can we have a quick show of hands as to how much interest there is in either/both of these?
I'll Do The Turtle Map.
#63 posted by necros [172.131.212.47] on 2003/07/04 15:36:54
yes i will... i think.
Yah
#64 posted by starbuck [80.192.123.134] on 2003/07/04 15:40:17
im definately up for both
Don't Know
#65 posted by Hrimfaxi [80.198.33.118] on 2003/07/04 16:49:13
I will try to - but don't think I have the time!
Speedmapping..
#66 posted by ChAiNeR [80.192.9.7] on 2003/07/04 22:12:06
is that basically when you make a map in a really short amount of time?
mite give it a go :)
Yes It Is.
#67 posted by necros [172.129.10.126] on 2003/07/04 22:49:02
and good for you. ;)
In Case Anyone Is Wondering,
#68 posted by necros [172.167.37.243] on 2003/07/05 11:05:40
there's something about 'half days' for opening and closing days, therefore, qexpo will start in about one hour from the time of this posting. (i think).
Necros
#69 posted by underworldfan [172.199.25.115] on 2003/07/06 03:29:22
what the hell is the 621/621 screenshot at your Qexpo booth?
I am assuming its your respawn mod.
"621/621" in A Quake 1 screenshot = Fun. (to me)
w00t.
No Respawn There...
#70 posted by necros [172.147.244.178] on 2003/07/06 11:25:16
truthfully. those were really put in the map from the editor.
Yeah...
#71 posted by metlslime [66.135.131.205] on 2003/07/06 19:31:23
respawning monsters can't affect the monster total because after the game starts the client won't accept changes to it.
Meltslime,
#72 posted by necros [172.138.194.74] on 2003/07/07 15:59:44
actually, you can change monster count easily.
total_monsters = total_monsters + 1;
i actually had to code an extra bit to stop the respawned monsters from counting, so only the first, original monster counts in the kills, all respawns don't. :)
Necros:
#73 posted by metlslime [66.135.131.205] on 2003/07/07 17:01:36
yes, but i thought the client ignored those messages after the game began.
Nope...
#74 posted by necros [172.138.194.74] on 2003/07/07 17:23:45
but, you have to remember to put it:
WriteByte (MSG_BROADCAST, SVC_UPDATESTAT);
WriteByte (MSG_BROADCAST, STAT_TOTALMONSTERS);
WriteLong (MSG_BROADCAST, total_monsters);
to make sure it gets updated, otherwise, yes, you are right, simply changing the var does nothing.
Just To Let You Know
#75 posted by Vodka [195.242.19.158] on 2003/07/08 00:18:39
I`m releasing a map pretty soon (screenshots were posted about a year ago on my page :)).
Will not take part in speedmapping - the timing is bad for me. And not participating in TM either. Got to finish my old maps.
Hope to see alot of good maps and mods from you guys. Like in good old skool days !
Necros:
#76 posted by metlslime [66.135.131.205] on 2003/07/08 00:24:06
doh, why didn't i think of that? :P
Yah
#77 posted by NotoriousRay [209.163.111.113] on 2003/07/08 15:10:18
the mission pack one's func_spawn stuff do that :)

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