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Posted by metlslime [64.124.188.211] on 2003/07/17 23:42:25

Ultimate Arena is some sort of "pay to play, get paid if you win" deathmatch service. They've just launched some ads on the planet sites, which is how i found out about them. What made me take notice is the ads themselves:
http://www.ultimatearena.com/ads/3...
http://adcontent.gamespy.com/ultim...
There is another ad right on the Ultimate Arena home page:
http://www.ultimatearena.com/games...
Now take a look at this screenshot of one of my Cube levels: http://www.celephais.net/cv/image....
Any thoughts?

Yes, I Have Thoughts
#1 posted by R.P.G. [24.136.233.9] on 2003/07/18 01:02:08
They did a good job of removing the cross hair from your pic.
(Yes, I realize they could have taken the pic themselves, but that's not part of the joke.)
Just look at it as free advertising for your levels, except they aren't telling people where to get the maps.
My Take:
#2 posted by metlslime [66.135.131.205] on 2003/07/18 01:09:39
Anybody can take a screenshot of a level and do what they want with it, just like anybody can take a photo of the Guggenheim and do what they want with it. It's fair use as long as the photo/screenshot isn't a suitable replacement of the original (that's why a photo of a painting is not copyright the photographer.)
In this case, however, it's obvious that they did not take their OWN screenshot of my level, but instead grabbed Aard's shot off of the cube website. This is the equivalent of stealing someone else's photograph of a publicly accessible building/locale -- the photo itself is still copyright the photographer.
So, this is copyright infringement, and it's Aard's copyright i guess. I doubt he cares that much, and i don't care a whole lot, either.
Bonus points for anyone who can recognize the original sources of: 1) the gun, and 2) the bad guys that get shot.
As For Why They Didn't Use A Screenshot Of UT2K3:
#3 posted by metlslime [66.135.131.205] on 2003/07/18 01:14:42
probably they figured they would get in trouble if they pissed off a big powerful company. Better to steal from random individuals who don't have a team of lawyers ready to pounce on anything they don't like.
Pfft
#4 posted by pushplay [24.86.74.102] on 2003/07/18 03:51:23
They should have swiped a shot from metl1, it was better.
The fact that they misrepresented what game it is is more annoying than anything else. I can't imagine whomever-it-was-who-made-UT would be bothered by UT shots advertising this thing. They're probably too busy calculating the minimal amount of effort it will take to sell their next UT installment anyways.
#5 posted by Kell [82.41.48.30] on 2003/07/18 12:20:00
Hmm, that's really rather dodgy. It's also kinda funny.
I agree with you metl that taking a screenshot would not be infringement, but stealing a screenshot is. I also agree that it's not worth worrying about. But if it were a screenie of one of my maps, I'd feel a tad narked that people wouldn't know it was one of my maps. Exposure/credit is the only currency you get for a custom map. Bah, 'tis vanity on my part.
It is odd that the ad doesn't show anything from UT tho; isn't that going to mislead, or at least irritate the people their aiming at?
Oh I don't know. Maybe someone else will make more sense.
Hm
#6 posted by Goetzenzar [217.2.222.103] on 2003/07/19 10:55:06
your cube levels always had that ut3k rip-off feel
Sue The Pants Off Them!
#7 posted by Drannerz [213.123.147.248] on 2003/07/20 11:30:22
Put the whole friggin' system on trial.
Oh, You Don't Have To Sue Me To Get My Pants Off, Dranz!
#8 posted by The System [24.218.135.18] on 2003/07/20 14:05:43
[nt]
Haha
#9 posted by Aardappel [213.68.157.131] on 2003/07/22 04:52:41
I just find this very funny. I doubt you can make a case based on screenshots, this stuff happens all the time.
I am just curious how the hell the guy who made this got that screenshot. I mean if he was a clueless marketroid, how did he find cube? did he just search for random game images and find cube? unlikely somehow.

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