Session Start: Tue Nov 07 15:47:31 2000
[15:47] Session Ident: s- (synk@digitaljedi.com)
[15:47] <s-> we need to talk
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[15:47] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> yes?
[15:47] <s-> about your demo page
[15:48] <s-> we are requesting that you either take down every demo you took from our page, or link them to our page, mainly cause you did not even ask permission
[15:48] <s-> or did not give credit to our site
[15:48] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> yeah...
[15:49] <s-> yea what?
[15:49] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> i thought i did give dredit?
[15:49] <s-> where?
[15:49] <s-> and why would you want to make a demo page that has 90% of our demos
[15:49] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> Welcome to the new TFA Demo page. Special thanks go out to Heineken of MA for the idea. Thanks also to Someguy, Derb, Ludicrous, Wood and C4rboN83` for providing URLs to demos, (Other than Djedi's page). 
[15:49] <s-> uh
[15:49] <s-> you call that credit?
[15:49] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> its not 90%..and i've yet to review 40+ new ones
[15:49] <s-> when almost every single one of your demos is from our page?
[15:49] <s-> haha
[15:49] <s-> the ones listed
[15:49] <s-> thats 90%
[15:50] <s-> it's your choice, you can take them down or link them to our page
[15:50] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> how about...you provide an "adequate" credit sentence
[15:50] <s-> hm, no
[15:50] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> frankly...i dont't understand why there would be a problem
[15:50] <s-> if you had asked for permission originally
[15:50] <s-> i would be more understanding
[15:50] <s-> but you raped our page without even asking
[15:51] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> i didnt ask anyone for any of the demos
[15:51] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> i dled the ones posted..on suggestions and email to urls
[15:52] <s-> that's their own issue, but the fact is, you took demos from our page and posted them on your own site without permission
[15:52] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> and i was quite clear on the sta board that i would try to use djedis demos
[15:52] <s-> and that makes it ok?
[15:52] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> none had anything negative to say..until now
[15:52] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> and i'm really very surprised
[15:52] <s-> as was i when i saw you took almost every demo from our page
[15:53] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> it wasn't my intention to piss off you or djedi
[15:53] <s-> i am not pissed
[15:53] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> not every demo..only the ones i thought had an instructitive edge to them
[15:53] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> 1on1 demos dont fit TFAs criteria
[15:53] <s-> i said "almost" every deom
[15:53] <s-> look at your page
[15:53] <s-> currently
[15:53] <s-> almost everyone one of them is from our page
[15:53] <s-> with the exception of a few
[15:54] <s-> the fact is, you took our content and placed it on your site w/o permission
[15:54] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> like i said..i have another large batch to review
[15:54] <s-> fine, and i said
[15:54] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> and none of them are from dkedi
[15:54] <s-> you can take the ones from our page down, or link them to our page
[15:54] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> i'm not doing this for money..i'm doing it to promote TF in general
[15:54] <s-> money?
[15:54] <s-> what?
[15:55] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> i made a mistake not contacting you or djedi...
[15:55] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> but all i can do is apologize
[15:55] <s-> your apology is accepted, but you still need to make a decision to take them down or link them to our site
[15:56] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> the demos on djedis site...some of them contain a variety of different matches
[15:56] <s-> yep
[15:56] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> for the purposes of my site..they must be unzipped and categorized
[15:56] <s-> ok
[15:57] <s-> ...
[15:58] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> i can't use the demos as they now exist on djedis page
[15:58] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> do you have them on fileplanet somewhere?
[15:58] <s-> no
[15:58] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> other than planetfortress?
[15:58] <s-> we don't use planetfortress
[15:59] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> well..since i can't use the demos on djedis page..for reasons above, and i can't link them from fileplanet...which is easiest for me anyways
[15:59] <s-> listen, it obviously seems you are not willing to reach an agreement here, so just do us both the favor and take down the demos from our page
[15:59] <s-> um
[15:59] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> i'll take them down..and explain to TFA why..and post a news item
[16:00] <s-> ok, thanks
[16:00] <s-> and feel free to slander us, cause i'm pretty sure you will
[16:00] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> email me exactly which ones are from djedi
[16:00] <s-> wtf
[16:01] <s-> how about i tell you which ones WEREN'T taken from our site
[16:01] <[wTf]Dog_hhhtmll> dogsoldier@home.com
Session Close: Tue Nov 07 16:05:54 2000