Help with Nehahra with the Darplaces Engine

[yhe1]

That's one of Darkplaces' bugfixes that I love&hate so much. In most(?) other engines those boxes would be missing. They were placed right at walls and that does not work well in Quake. Darkplaces recognises such faulty mapping and tries keeping the items in the map. And that results in this funky behaviour. You can disable it with "sv_gameplayfix_droptofloorstartsolid 0" I think, but then the items are gone.

While we are at it, you might want to set the following cvars to 0 to get proper Quake gameplay.

sv_gameplayfix_blowupfallenzombies 0
sv_gameplayfix_grenadebouncedownslopes 0
sv_gameplayfix_qwplayerphysics 0

Well, I ran your repackaged Gl nehahra again, and it does not appear to have this problem, the items were staying put. But there is something else. When I was playing, the status bar was black and only visble when the menu is on.

I have attached a pic:

[yhe1]

I think that dpnehahra.exe that comes in the Nehahra zip is pre-"drop to floor bugfix".

I used DPNehahra and it ran without any problems.

However, the Darkplaces engine seems to be a bit jerky on my computer, while the GLquake.exe packaged with Nehahra ran perfectly, I was wondering what version of GLquake that is and where i could get it to run other mods.

I've used this:

http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/glquakebjp.zip

before and It gave me flickering screens that I was unable to fix.

[Baker]

http://user.tninet.se/~xir870k/glquakebjp.zip

before and It gave me flickering screens that I was unable to fix.

That would be the best GLQuake.exe that I know of to use with mods.

This should kill the screen flicker easy:

gl_ztrick 0
gl_clear 1

Only relatively recently have all the "Quake video card issues" really been fully understood and if aguirRe releases an update to Enhanced GLQuake I sure hope it has ...

gl_ztrick default to 0
gl_clear default to 1
Intel fix
ALT-TAB fix

Aggravating little issues like the above cause a lot of grief and with Quake the problems are more like death by 1000 cuts where someone somewhere is getting frustrated with a handful of these things rather than some single issue.

Btw, your issue with the HUD disappearing in Nehahra ... type viewsize 100 in the console --- this is happening because if you exit during a cutscene, the cutscene appears to set viewsize 120 to hide the HUD and if you quit during a cutscene then viewsize 120 saves to your config.

[yhe1]

That would be the best GLQuake.exe that I know of to use with mods.

This should kill the screen flicker easy:

gl_ztrick 0
gl_clear 1

Only relatively recently have all the "Quake video card issues" really been fully understood and if aguirRe releases an update to Enhanced GLQuake I sure hope it has ...

gl_ztrick default to 0
gl_clear default to 1
Intel fix
ALT-TAB fix

Aggravating little issues like the above cause a lot of grief and with Quake the problems are more like death by 1000 cuts where someone somewhere is getting frustrated with a handful of these things rather than some single issue.

Btw, your issue with the HUD disappearing in Nehahra ... type viewsize 100 in the console --- this is happening because if you exit during a cutscene, the cutscene appears to set viewsize 120 to hide the HUD and if you quit during a cutscene then viewsize 120 saves to your config.

Tried those already, didn't work.

Then I used Darkplaces, and it worked. but I get an low framerate when the Enforcers fire their lasers, which has some light around it in the Darkplace engine.

The Glquake.exe supplied with Nehahra is not jerky nor does it flickers. That's why I wanted a version of it to run other mods.

[Lardarse]

In DP, r_coronas 0 will turn off the laser glow.

If you don't have a video card that supports GL 2.0 then you should do r_glsl 0 as well.

[yhe1]

Thanks. Can I use the glquake.exe packaged with Nehahra to run other mods? Or is there an equal of it somewhere?

[yhe1]

I tested using the Glquake.exe packaged with Nehahra to run other mods. I tested it with Malice, OUM, and it seems to work. However, when I entered viewsize 100 into the console the status bar is still black. Is there anything else that could be causing this problem?

[Baker]

I tested using the Glquake.exe package to run other mods. I tested it with Malice, OUM, and it seems to work. However, when I entered viewsize 100 into the console the status bar is still black. Is there anything else that could be causing this problem?

Hard to tell. If you mean that the entire area that the status bar is supposed to be in is black, playing with gl_clear 0 or and gl_ztrick 0 or 1 might fix it.

If you mean that the status bar is just rendered poorly, using -bpp 16 or -bpp 32 might fix it.

What video card are we talking about here?

When glquake.exe starts up, gl_renderer: <something> should show in the console log. What does it say? Hopefully the word "Intel" is not in it.

You said something about some engine made the screen "flicker"? Usually gl_ztrick is to blame for that. Are you certain you have tried gl_ztrick 0? (Yeah, I know you said you did.)

[yhe1]

Using

gl_ztrick 0
gl_clear 1

fixed it. Thanks!

[yhe1]

You said something about some engine made the screen "flicker"? Usually gl_ztrick is to blame for that. Are you certain you have tried gl_ztrick 0? (Yeah, I know you said you did.)

The gl_ztrick 0 made the status bar normal, but it didn't help with the flickering. The Glquake.exe that was modified for Nehahra doesn't flicker though. That's why I was wondering if the Nehahra's GLquake.exe was a different one or something.

[yhe1]

I do use intelG945.

When I set both Gl_ztrick and gl_clear to 0, the flickering stops but the status bar becomes black. Is there something I could do with the status bar?

[Baker]

I do use intelG945.

When I set both Gl_ztrick and gl_clear to 0, the flickering stops but the status bar becomes black. Is there something I could do with the status bar?

There is no direct solution to your problem with those Intel cards.

Let me look into something though.

[yhe1]

There is no direct solution to your problem with those Intel cards.

Let me look into something though.

In the meantime, I used this to make Darkplaces run smoother by using your advice from another thread

"cl_particles_blood_alpha "1"
cl_stainmaps "0"
cl_stainmaps_clearonload "0"
gl_polyblend "0.200000"
r_coronas "0"
r_glsl "0"
r_shadow_gloss "0"
r_shadow_realtime_dlight "0"
r_shadow_realtime_dlight_shadows "0"
r_shadow_realtime_world_dlightshadows "0"
r_shadow_realtime_world_shadows "0"

I have also downloaded the Darkplaces fastmode pk3, and placed in in my Id1 folder.

Is there anything else I could do?

[kreaper]

thank you so much spirit for your work repackaging this mod... was going to try it out... but apparantly gamespy has moved the homepage or its just gone now... couldnt find anywhere to download... prob shoulda tried this awesome site first. anyway quaddicted moved the download site... prob not a big deal but i just wanted to post the new address just in case somebody else was looking for it.

Quaddicted.com: nehahra.zip - Nehahra by Nehahra Team

cheers!

[kreaper]

sorry for the double post, but i just had a quick question..
downloaded the repacked nehahra zip from spirit and installed it and ran it just fine. but couldnt figure out how to get the effects and lighting that DP has to get going. the usual DP options were not in the options menu, it was all just like normal quake options. even had to go through the command line to get it to the resolution i wanted. i figured that one would have to type in the apporpriate console line to get these normal DP features up and running. (prettty inconvienient) am i doing something wrong? would like to have the full and normal DP options menu, but if not then just console commands would be better than nothing. please and thank you