A plea to server hosts

[Skutarth]

Server hosts:

Due to what's probably a fifteen year old legacy rule on my crappy ISP, I can't connect to servers at ports around 26000. Please set the port to something lower like 2600. It doesn't affect anything other than my ability to join the server.

I can confirm that it is the problem, since QuakeWorld will connect at 27500 and in NetQuake I can connect to friends at port 1414.

[R00k]

I think you should fix the problem on your end. Maybe a proxy or something. Requiring the rest of the community to bend around your problem is kinda silly.
Are you sure its yor ISP and not a coding error?

[Skutarth]

Trust me. It's not a configuration problem on my end. I can connect to other ports just fine. It's my ISP blocking ports somewhere between 26000-26100, which is where almost all NetQuake servers are hosted. I don't want to proxy because I don't have the resources to set up my own, and a public proxy would probably give me unplayable latency. Servers lose nothing from using a different port.

And is it really that silly? Believe me when I say that other people are likely in similar situation.

[Shok]

Can you not call your ISP and ask for the ports not to be blocked?

Have you tried connecting with the -ip (localhost) command?

[Skutarth]

Can you not call your ISP and ask for the ports not to be blocked?

Have you tried connecting with the -ip (localhost) command?

I'm dead serious. There's nothing I can do about it. I can't do anything on my end to make it work past using a proxy, which is as good as no solution at all.

[R00k]

get a new isp

[Skutarth]

How many times do I have to say that's not an option? It's like your internet connection at work (unless you're a rogue network administrator). Assume I have the same options as that.

[R00k]

Can you pick up any WiFi access?

[Skutarth]

Can you pick up any WiFi access?

I'll look into it. Speed may be lacking, though. We'll see.

[Zop]

I don't think you're quite aware of this, but you're really asking everyone to have to type in a port number in addition to the server address to play, since quake just defaults to 26000. So, unfortunately, don't expect that to happen any time soon.

[Skutarth]

I don't think you're quite aware of this, but you're really asking everyone to have to type in a port number in addition to the server address to play, since quake just defaults to 26000. So, unfortunately, don't expect that to happen any time soon.

More than half of the servers listed on this site are already not set to use port 26000.
See for yourself: QuakeOne - Quake Servers
They could just as easily be a much lower number like 2601 instead of 26001. People need to let go of setting it sequentially after or near 26000.

On top of that, it wouldn't exactly be hard to set up a soft port translation to provide an alternative address to connect to. That way, if the port is set at the default 26000, they can still provide an address with an alternate port. That alternative port won't prevent people from connecting at the default port at all, yet both addresses will connect to the same place. You can have your cake and eat it too.

Also, I'm not keen to your condescending tone. Did you really think I'm not aware of the default port? Do you really think that I'm that much of an imbecile? After looking at the code as much as I have, I know at least as much about Quake's networking as you do.
http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-hel...orwarding.html

[MasterSplinter]

I hear yah Skutarth,

It's just a request. Your not twisting anyone's arm. If you didn't put the idea out there, the idea would never be considered. I see what's going on.

No harm, no foul.

[tical]

Get a proxy fool.

[Wolv]

hey guiz i can't cnect to server, please chang all of them f0r me

[Skutarth]

This is exactly what Baker was talking about. People need to stop being pricks. As soon as I point out exactly why it's not that big of a deal to change the port, everybody flips the ******* switch when they don't have an intelligent answer.

At least MasterSplinter knows what I'm getting at. I'm not demanding anything. If a server isn't going to use the default port (26000) anyway, I'm simply requesting that they use a port number that's a lot lower. There isn't a reason to use port 26001 unless you're obsessive compulsive and need all the ports next to each other (even though you need all the ports open anyway for the vanilla NetQuake networking code to work). This applies to more than half the servers. If everybody did only that, I'd be able to connect to more than half the servers.