Discussion: Improved progs106 QuakeC Fixes!

[Baker]

Progs106 is the Quake game logic (progs.dat) that controls how a game is play. It isn't part of the server exe or the client exe, it is separate.

Today, I just learned that deathmatch 3 isn't actually in progs106! That came as a quite a surprise to me because deathmatch 3 use is commonplace on about every server.

This thread is to discuss improvements to the progs that comes with Quake which is mostly used in single player or LAN use; I don't know of any server that actually uses it (CRMOD is much better and has always supported deathmatch 3). If you don't know if your idea fits in this category, don't be afraid to mention it.

My list of stuff
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deathmatch 3 support - absolutely important
fish count fix - absolutely important
vote-map support - ought to be in there (Bam's version)
frikbot bot support in deathmatch only - would be nice, if possible
no name fix (name ="") - minor (C*S mentioned this)
wrong obituary messages in dm - minor (C*S mentioned this)
lightning gun bug (Scott mentioned this)

Personally, I believe a votable grappling hook would be a nice extra. It's funny how some player that used to play 10 years ago returns and is convinced there is a way to do this in single player, haha

C*S quoted a lot of stuff from this: http://www.inside3d.com/qip/home.shtml and http://www.inside3d.com/qip/q1/qcfix.htm

I think C*S mentioned noexit 3 and 4 support, and although I'm not a fan of deathmatch 4 it might as well be added in as well.

[Baker]

I have another one; optional ability to have a "ground weapon dropped" instead of backpack so you can tell what weapon you will be getting. The frogbots mod does this an I love it.

The ghostplayer fix for disconnected clients, maybe some extra teamplay options for armor damage/health damage if they don't already exist.

Add:

Optional EF_RED and EF_BLUE support.
Inherent capability to support the "lag" command (built into ProQuake 3.99, Slot Zero's HPB anti-lag thing).
Maybe some sort of support for a non-QCCX hack way of supporting a map rotation.txt file

[R00k]

Hmm, quake info pool i believe has a ton of these little fixes.
http://www.inside3d.com/qip/q1/bugs.htm

Are you meaning for single player Quake or using simple progs.dat 1.06 for a lan deathmatch server?

[Baker]

Are you meaning for single player Quake or using simple progs.dat 1.06 for a lan deathmatch server?

Mostly single player, but a little on the LAN side because most of these are easy fixes.

In particular, I'd like frik bot capability built-in to the progs.dat. For example, Qrack could include the progs.dat in the Qrack pak0.pak and it would AUTOMATICALLY BE USED!

So a benefit of, say, Qrack could be an automatic fish fix and built-in frikbot support.

[R00k]

Hmm... a bottom line cleaned up progs.dat with all known fixes, plus frikbots, plus modern features, client independent and open source?

[Baker]

Well, it is rather annoying if you kill all the monsters and it says you didn't because of fish!

Monster made frikbot waypoints for an enormous # of maps, frikbot support is easy to add and all of this could automatically be available in Qrack but stuffing it in the pak I think it'd use Qrack progs.dat over id1 progs.dat, right ?

[R00k]

I have another one; optional ability to have a "ground weapon dropped" instead of backpack so you can tell what weapon you will be getting. The frogbots mod does this an I love it.

This is a fun twist, but one issue that i ran into with this and DeathMatchMode 3 was a player would stand on the weapon and toss infinite weapons

float() check_weapon_toss_time =
{
  if ((self.weapon == IT_SUPER_SHOTGUN)	   && (self.weapon3_time > time)) return TRUE;
  if ((self.weapon == IT_NAILGUN)	   && (self.weapon4_time > time)) return TRUE;
  if ((self.weapon == IT_SUPER_NAILGUN)    && (self.weapon5_time > time)) return TRUE;
  if ((self.weapon == IT_GRENADE_LAUNCHER) && (self.weapon6_time > time)) return TRUE;
  if ((self.weapon == IT_ROCKET_LAUNCHER)  && (self.weapon7_time > time)) return TRUE;
  if ((self.weapon == IT_LIGHTNING)	   && (self.weapon8_time > time)) return TRUE;
  else return FALSE;
};

void() TossWeapon =
{
 local entity item;

if (deathmatch == 3)
{
	if (((check_weapon_toss_time()) == TRUE) && (self.health))
	{
		sprint(self,"you can only drop each weapon, once, every 30 seconds.\n");
		return;
	}
}

Looking back at an old ctf source of mine it is easily fixed...

Unless you mean weapon DROPPING for gibbed enemies...

[Baker]

Unless you mean weapon DROPPING for gibbed enemies...

What I mean is that with frogbots, instead of seeing a backpack you see whatever weapon the backpack would contain.

You kill a player with a rocket launcher, there is a rocket launcher sitting on the ground with 7 rockets instead of a backpack sitting on the ground with 7 a rocket launcher and 7 rockets.

The difference is just that you know what weapon you'll be getting.

[Bam]

But are you straying from what 1.06 progs is meant to be? Original quake is used to build a mod off of, a platform for you to add what you want. Dropping a rocket launcher sounds like something a mod would have. And adding hook...jeesh, keep 1.06 progs real.

I was weary of adding the vote system, but I saw it not as a change but a fix. Other than that I think it would be great to add those things.

[Canadian*Sniper]

I agree with Bam. But if this is just for players to use if they wanted LAN then I see where you're going with this baker

Also, what's this "lightning gun bug (Scott mentioned this)" fix? If it has to do with players not being hurt by discharge outside of the water then your cheek to going to be red from a Canadian slap! jk

edit:

Little too late to make this edit but Baker clarified for me on yim that it was the dm6 bug. SUCKAH!!!!

[Lardarse]

No... it's this one...

[PapaSmurf]

No... it's this one...

yep, that's the one.