Tragedy in Cairns, Australia

[RL Clown]

Stabbings in Cairns, Australia leave 8 children dead, woman injured - World - CBC News

How could you possibly comprehend this issue? This incident is beyond crazy. When I read these types of stories, sometimes, I just want to leave Earth and move to a new planet.

[wicked_lord]

Stabbings in Cairns, Australia leave 8 children dead, woman injured - World - CBC News

How could you possibly comprehend this issue? This incident is beyond crazy. When I read these types of stories, sometimes, I just want to leave Earth and move to a new planet.

Nasa is searching for people to send to Mars permanently, You could very well qualify if you just say the word's 'I'll go!'. Just remember it's a ONE-WAY ticket and no returning back to earth.

[RL Clown]

Nasa is searching for people to send to Mars permanently, You could very well qualify if you just say the word's 'I'll go!'. Just remember it's a ONE-WAY ticket and no returning back to earth.

Thank you for telling me this. Nasa has always been original. Anyways, I hope that the crime in Cairns gets solved as soon as possible. Without question, this is definitely a time to mourn. This type of tragedy affects the world.

[nahuel]

RL Clown i understand your anger, but if these things happen in countrys like Syria, Argentina, Sudan, or Palestine would have no emotional effect beyond its borders. In the third world such atrocities happen daily, and nobody seems to care.

[RL Clown]

RL Clown i understand your anger, but if these things happen in countrys like Syria, Argentina, Sudan, or Palestine would have no emotional effect beyond its borders. In the third world such atrocities happen daily, and nobody seems to care.

I don't want to start a flame war. I actually thank you for taking the time to post your opinion. But I am a logical human being and I like to argue... Australia is not a third world country. Australia is a first world country (Google this if you don't believe me.) And even if Australia was a third world country, I think that it is still a big deal. Take a look at history, my friend... Many communistic revolutions took place in third world countries, but the Americans still thought that it was a big deal. (I actually don't blame them.) I would never under-estimate the domino effect. I'm not saying that I am 100% correct. There is no perfect answer. But I think that my reasoning ability can carry a lot of weight.

[nahuel]

well, my country (argentina) was very anti-comunist. really anti-comunist, and that anti-communism was always fed by USA obviously. ALl themassacres here were perpetrated by governments with the support of USA.
Obviously I know that australia is a first world country. But I think it's a bit hypocritical indignant about something that happens in a first world country and remain unmoved when these events occur in the Third World (and, oh chance, are often directly or indirectly perpetrated by a first world country).
A communist revolution or whatever is a political fact that is generated from a number of elements. It is a historical process. The killing of 8 children by a mother or father a psychopath is not a historical process; It is a particular atrocity. There is no historical. The domino effect occurs when countries have similar -social and economic- elements. Revolutions are always economic, the politic in revolutions is secondary. And the third and first world do not share the same economic factors so to speak domino effect is quite inconsistent even social revolutions.
not to mention about an isolated fact in carins, perpetrated by psychopaths

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Pull your head out of your ass nahuel.

[nahuel]

i do not understand whats your point, this does not contradict anything I said. if you can please explain.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

@Nahuel Speak for yourself, not the rest of the worlds population.

10 to 1 odds say nearly anyone/everyone who heard about about THIS cared, and their hearts sank,that is unless you're some twisted fuck to begin with,then you might cheer or not care......

Mine sank.

Killing is bad,unless its for a just cause. Killing kids is never a just cause, even if your killing "the bad guys kids". Kids are through and through the epitome of innocence. I like to think any kids witnessing/hearing the news about what goes on in the world around them eventually leads to them doing their own critical thinking and as such, people with respect for life outnumber/outgrow the morons doing atrocities daily. You're not born a douchebag or a terrorist, you're raised into it. I just hope everyone gets on board before some fucking morons push over an edge that we can't hang on to, (ie, Ruble/Economy of Russia crumbling, Putin figuring 'fuck it,nothing to lose now, pushes button~NK's fucking childish leader who doesn't want anyone having the same name as him, also figuring 'fuck it',same song and dance,and many others who are being cornered)

@you
Keep your chin up homie.It may not look like it,but we're winning. Good>Evil....

Only complete inept morons get their hands slapped for doing wrong and then wonder 'Y U SLAP HAND?'



To those who live with atrocities, your 1776 will come one day.
Hong Kong wants it,but China is pretty much snubbing dissent at every turned corner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chh5WUvieyU

^ Theres you're reassurance that the world is becoming a better place,its just the last remnants of tyranny are doing anything and everything they can to keep their death-gotten-grip on the ways of the old.

I had originally decided not to submit this to this thread, but since you asked.

You should be thankful that the Allies put a stop to the shit that occurred during WWII , honestly I detected a bit of anti-USA rhetoric in your post. Argentina spent 5 years of WWII (1939-1944) on the sidelines , and largely remained inactive while Germany steam rolled Europe.

Because of the close ties between Germany and Argentina, the latter stayed neutral for most of World War II, despite internal disputes and pressure from the United States to join the Allies.[2] However, Argentina eventually gave in to the Allies' pressure, broke relations with the Axis powers on January 26, 1944,[3] and declared war on March 27, 1945.[4]

I've already invested way more effort here than need be, so toodles dude.

[nahuel]

This does not contradict the objective facts that I mentioned. Still do not understand why the relationship between Argentina and Nazi Germany contradicts something that I said ...
Really do not understand what your point. do you think this news to my not impact me for being a third world?

Killing kids is never a just cause, even if your killing "the bad guys kids". Kids are through and through the epitome of innocence.

Do you think I do not think so?
I have not seen any outraged thread here quakeone about the palestinian children killed.
That's what I call hypocrisy.

But I do not point to RL Clown hypocritical neither you, but the means by which these reports are known. The media manipulate people beyond their natural empathy for a slaughter in australia indigne and slaughter in Palestine does not mean anything.

To those who live with atrocities, your 1776 will come one day.

Capitalism does not suit any kind of "1776" for everyone, capitalism thrives on poverty. And if you have such a simplistic and manichean thinking that leads him to believe that the world is a place where good battles evil; that is your problem. Things are more complex, there are no good countries, the worst countries are those that invade another with propaganda of "freedom" when there is no war political motivations, background motifs are always economic.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

let me elaborate. Quakeone.com =/= let's post about atrocities of the world.

We're free to post whatever we do or don't want to post, RL Clown stresses the bad shit in the world. I thrive on the good shit in the world. Just because no one posts about the atrocities does not mean we don't care. You think RL is a hypocrite because he posts about the Aussie atrocity and not the Pakistan atrocity? please, go fuck yourself.
I brought up WWII and your country because YOU brought them up and how they are so opposed to communism, so I figured you should be informed that your "Anti communist country" sat and spun while Germany fucked Europe in the ass. You spoke so highly about your country in one hand and take a shit on mine in the other?

well, my country (argentina) was very anti-comunist. really anti-comunist, and that anti-communism was always fed by USA obviously. ALl themassacres here were perpetrated by governments with the support of USA.

Don't bother replying directly at me, I've tossed you on the ignore list. I'm sincere about go fuck yourself,with all my heart, literally, go get fucked dude.

[nahuel]

Aggression is not a resource for present ideas in a forum, but I understand that you do because maybe they are somewhat complex presentations and you are ignorant of the history of Argentina (also not need to know), and also my english sucks. you are aggressive and has run out of arguments to expose the complexity of the issue. For a Manichean thinking the world is easy to fix right? My country was not necessarily anti communist nothing more than Peron. The Argentine Communist Party and the US Embassy per�n conspired against it, along with other Argentine military and this is a historical data. But obviously you will not understand the history and Argentina and donot have to do it. I do not see that being anti communist or capitalist pro is good or bad. Do you think I was trying to speak well of my country for the anti-communism? I think the problem is that you do not understand that the world is not divided into good and evil. Capitalism, Fascism and communism are the same shit.

About my country and USA, i will mention a subject, Henry Kissinger: This great motherfucker was the intellectual perpetrator of Operation Condor. you know what that is? if you dont know you should study about it. You could never understand how much damage has been done to Latin America this plan. if indeed the world was divided into good and bad this would be absolute evil. I understand your nationalist sentiments, but the objective data are there, despite your feelings ...


merry christmas

[Dutch]

The best policy any country can adopt is to mind it's own business until it's being threatened by another.

Yes, this includes the U.S, but there's not one country on Earth that hasn't made a bad move.

Capitalism, Fascism and communism are the same shit.

I must respectfully disagree with this though. Capitalism has problems, naturally. Lots of them. Some limited form of regulation is necessary. Preventing monopolies, overseeing health issues in food products, so on and so forth. But the death toll of innocent people under communist regimes is 150 million+ and rising. I don't know fascism off the top of my head, but we can safely say 12 million off the bat from the Nazis. And those are just civilian casualties, not including war.

There haven't been many truly capitalist nations in man's history (without heavy government regulation by a monarchy, party, or other form of dictatorship...even American government has a larger influence than it probably should), but I would be surprised if you could sum up a similar death toll for capitalism. Capitalists generally want people to be happy and alive, otherwise they can't buy their products.

I do understand most of your argument, though.

I also want to iterate my like for a good friendly debate. I don't mean to piss you off Nahuel, I'm a huge fan of your work here at Q1, that won't change no matter what your opinion is.