Paradise's Disagreement With Forum Moderation

[Paradise]

Those 3 drawings you posted are considered pornography here.

I had one drawing up which was comical into itself - no nudity - no harm intended, and Baker banned me onto the spot for one week.

You have 3 and they all show nudity and they are all strongly sexually oriented - according to him.

You must know better than to post these things here after what happened to me and if Baker does not ban you as he did to me then he is a total hypocrite and I definitely will hold this against him.

That is why I moved to another board.

[ORL]

It just sounds like your trying to get BuurVrouw in trouble for no good reason. The art you made was poking fun at Canadian*Sniper, whereas BuurVrouw's are not directed towards anybody, and shes merely showing her talent. Big difference.

[Paradise]

I am not "trying" anything.

Forums rules dictate upon registration:

"By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented...etc."

I was bluntly told by Baker after he banned me with no notice.

About my drawing, 2 people encouraged it, one of them being an Administrator himself.

I asked if it was OKAY, TWICE!!! Nobody said anything against it.

This lady went into my thread then silently walked out prior to my ban. I saw her.

She knew exactly about it, which makes her as guitly as me - supposedly - and a big slap into the face to me that she can get away with stuff I can not.

Drawing huge NAKED hairy balls, tits and a bare ass is totally unacceptable. Especially, when my drawing contained no nudity at all, yet I got banned for it pronto.

If she gets away with it, it constitutes that Baker is playing favorites.

I can say I am merely showing my talent as well, yet nobody cared and I got banned. What makes her any different?

I am always observant of rules.

I am really curious how Baker is going to handle this.

I got burned for this same issue, therefore this is pornography and I reported this post.

If nothing is done about this, this is total descrimination.

I am not here to start trouble, the facts and the evidence is clear onto this problem.

Thank you very much.

[Baker]

I've split this out from Buurvouw's Art thread. It references a drawing towards the end of the thread.

http://www.quakeone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3114

[Paradise]

I see, incriminating evidence against the wrongful actions of an Administrator is deleted.

This is the lowest I have seen this forum sink into.

Delete this as well. The reputation of this board went to totally ZERO and you can bet I will let others know.

Have a nice day and have fun with that delete button you love, Admin!

Delete this fast that nobody gets to see it! LOL!

[Baker]

The reputation of this board went to totally ZERO and you can bet I will let others know.

I think it is rather easy to distinguish the difference between what you did and Buurvouw's drawings.

[Solecord]

I thought you were done with this forum Paradise??

[Phenom]

I can say I am merely showing my talent as well, yet nobody cared and I got banned. What makes her any different?

*cough*

Didn't you say you were done with quakeone.com? I remember you stating you retired with a 401k or something like that.

Delete this as well. The reputation of this board went to totally ZERO and you can bet I will let others know.

Let Scoffer know.

[omix2]

Bahfahahfhafhahahahhahaha


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This is pathetic...

[Paradise]

First off, good thing this got moved here, I was extremely pissed yesterday and I was going to put this at QuakeBoard.Net where posts will not be deleted.

I actually have more respect for Slot's forum than to bring this crap over there.

My strong belief is what happens into one place MUST stay into that place until resolved. When my voice is taken away, I feel extremely frustrated and want to express myself elsewhere.

I have no issue with posts being moved, that is up to the Admin where things should be. Erasing them completely, especially when a good point is presented is completely unacceptable.

With that being said, let us continue.

What is the difference?

Let us be honest and dissect this issue with an impartial approach.

The jack off drawing showed no nudity. Yes it did suggest in a humourous sexual activity.

B's drawing - I will call her that for short - showed that perverted doctor creature with the intent to have sex with that naked woman laying onto the table.

Next drawing she had is that man with huge balls. What is that?

OK, I can think into comparison with that lunatic picture I posted of that man into the crazy asylum with his shlong hanging out.

I say this yet once more, I did not think anythink of it since it came from a historical medical website about mental asylums from the 1950s.

Discovery channel has completely naked tribal women and men.

Let us define what pornography is.

It is a medium intended to arouse sexual arousal. It is mainly characterized by videos of people having sexual intercourse.

Nude photography is called art, yet it shares a close border with pornography. My honest definition is that if the subject is sitting casually naked then it is art. This is agreeable with everybody, I strongly believe. If the subject(s) into the pictures is looking horny and is touching their private parts then it is more pornography.

Museums have naked paintings.

These forums rules are extremely muddy.

It does not give me pleasure to see B punished. Yet, she knows what is happening here as she visited my post and I saw her with my own eyes there.

Why am I treated different?

As told by Baker, anything related to sex is pornography. Where do you draw the line and how should one know where that line is?

If she goes unmoderated does this constitute that I can put naked drawings up - which really I do not have a particular interest in - this is a question.

According to the logic here, this is what it comes down to.

An extremely common sense question.

I will briefly answer some of the other posts.

Omix2's comment is irrelevant to this discussion and therefore will be ignored.

Phenom: I like art and therefore I check out B's work from time to time. Once I saw that material unmoderated and posted shamelessly the issue is re-opened with a big WTF is going on here?

Are you comparing me with Scoffer? If you do, I can say you are Omix2. Both are morons, I do not see any valid reason for that comment other than a useless-below-the-belt low insult aimed to hurt my feelings rather than to illustrate a valid presented point.

Scoffer has no brain and ethics. I actually WANT to obey all rules and I am respectful of all. What I do not APPRECIATE is to be descriminated onto issues such as these.

Solecord: Why, do you want me to go? I want to be part of this place and I left being mad, not for as I wanted to. All forum posters are equal and must be treated as such. I get censored as I overpowered my oppositional argumentators, which were really 3 people. Phenom, who ran out of things to say. Baker, who is stubborn and when proven wrong refuses to communicate. And Omix2, which I got bored beating his every argument.

Speaking of Omix2, I have the question why was his pro-terrorism propaganda be allowed to remain onto this site. I must bring to the attention of the website operators that this sort of thing is extremely serious and can get the whole site shut down, if not, further trouble can come out of that. This is for their own good.

Yet my silly drawing was treated harshly and got me banned a week. Which is the most serious issue? I see a big discrepancy here.

Yet when Omix2 curses Baker out directly, Baker slaps him with a 3 day ban.

He claims to be an impartial Admin yet his actions prove otherwise. Everything can be corrected, I hold nothing against anybody if they fix their errors. All I say is do the right thing.

I do not curse at people, I use logical explanations and I am polite. My reputation is of being extremely truthful and blunt.

I really did not wanted to go. The descrimination is outrageous here and un-deserved.

Do some of you see me as a trouble maker? I am not. When things unfairly affect me, I have the right to defend myself. Everybody does it, it is that I do it extremely best and leave people with no further replies. Is this how a winner is treated, by putting her down and censoring her when she is right? I give into others when they are right. Put ego aside and do what is right!

Help me understand here.

This is for those interested into this issue. I realize this is a huge read and I thank those that took the time out to read my "novel" as you guys put it. The ones that do not read and leave a comment, they are ignorant and the comment has no value since they did not read my original expressed belief which supposedly their comment is based upon. Unless they say they did not read this and therefore their comment is not related to this message.

Thankfully, we can get this over and done with and achieve closure as to finally what is happening here.

Onto a personal note, I am at home for the whole week with an extremely bad tonsil infection and a bitch of a fever. I could not eat for 2 days - the weekend - as I could not swallow anything, my throat was closed and I kept choking. I was sick, weak and hungry. It was horrible, especially when it hit me at work over the weekend and it was too late to call out.

Thinking it was a bad cold I kept taking Tylenol. It was not helping. I had a serious infection and I needed to see a doctor right away and be prescribed an anti-biotic to clear this up.

I thought I will get better over time. I did not, I got worst, the fever and the pain - which felt as razor spikes digging into my throat - got worst and when I could not take the suffering anymore I went to the doctor and as this old lady owl Chinese doctor - hehe - looked into my owl throat as I opened wide my owl beak, she exclaimed "My God!" and she gave me these huge pills to take - the size of the first section of the pinky from the nail down - which lol I could barely swallow the monster.

Sincerely,
-T.

[Solecord]

Perhaps if you stop posting essays.... I don't have the time to read through your gigantor posts so I won't be addressing any questions in there.

[Paradise]

HaHa! Gigantor!:d

There is a lot to cover, a lot of history and the topic(s) that are discussed and addressed at all lights and angles for a fair and open mature discussion. I wanted to put everything into 1 post, that way it is all into here.

What if you read bits and pieces, one paragraph then one later, is that more manageable for you? That is what I do. I make a mental note where I left off and pickup reading later from there.

[omix2]

Speaking of Omix2, I have the question why was his pro-terrorism propaganda be allowed to remain onto this site. I must bring to the attention of the website operators that this sort of thing is extremely serious and can get the whole site shut down, if not, further trouble can come out of that. This is for their own good.

Because I have that right, dumbfuck. What don't you understand about the 1st amendment?

I support the terrorists. They're fighting a cruel and imperialistic world power that thinks it can just bomb the the shit out of any country it wants. Fuck America. I bet that pisses you off.

[Phenom]

Paradise, nobody wants to read 5 pages of someone's personal beliefs. Don't get upset and call people dumb, missing out, shallow simply because they don't want to read 5 pages of personal belief, "whoh as me, whoh as me", "wah wah wah I want my milk and cookies" bullshit.

Nobody here can take you seriously when you contradict your self within your first sentence of your 5 page gum bumping sessions.

Go ahead and retire already, you are starting to look like the (cali style) cockroaches that you keep shooting with extra strength raid but they still try to run around before they slowly die.

Everyone accepts "B" & "B"'s art over you & yours because "B" has something you clearly lack, which is charm, maturity and respect aswell as respect from others because of her personality on the forums.

You have already been labeled a troll here and in 2 other forums I know of and I only know of 4 forums altogether that I frequent. You might want to check your approch on the human behavior, you might learn something.

I'm sure you can figure out why most people don't like you on forums, after all you do seem extremely highly intelligent

But until you figure that out, try and keep your posts to 1 page at most if you want people to even consider what you have to say.

You're only making yourself look bad girl!

You have to crawl before you walk.



Don't hate i'm only being real =]

[omix2]

woah guys i wasn't trying to "get the whole site shut down" with my evil anti american comments. good thing paradise warned us before the fbi, cia, and nsa came to drag me away and shut down this website!