demo editing?

[cinsere]

i wanna edit and take clips from some of my demos so i can make a movie... but i dunno where to start. whats a good demo editing prog and then how can i make it into a movie?

[Mr.Burns]

There have been some apps that will allow you edit the actual .dem file but IMHO for simple demos the easiest way is to first convert it into something more useable and portable like an AVI file. That way even simple apps like MovieMaker can be used to edit your clips and produce a watchable movie.

The following guides may [hopefully ] prove useful:
How To Record A Demo and
Movie Making: Making Quake Demos Into Movies 101

Hope this helps

Monty

[cinsere]

thanks monty. so is using the joequake method the only way to convert existing demos to .avi?

[metchsteekle]

its in most clients by now, like qrack

[cinsere]

hrmm... pro q? also... back in the day i used to have this lil prog called "demoplay" witch worked for .dem files that allowed you to fast forward, rewind, pause the demo as you wanted. no one around would happen to have that prog or know where to find it?

[=peg=]

qrack has that binded to the arrow keys by default.. not sure bout pq399 but it does have video capture for sure

bind "x" "cl_demospeed 10" for fast forward (default = 1) and
bind "y" "cl_demorewind 10" for fast rewind (default = 0)
change values and keys to your liking..

[Chuck]

Watch some of the existing movies and see if it's even worth pursuing.

[Baker]

Here is one way to do this:

1. Get a codec to enable compressed capturing (http://www.xvidmovies.com/codec/) [this includes XVID and DIVX]

2. For the purposes of this, use JoeQuake 0.15 http://joequake.quake1.net ; although Qrack has video capture as well in build 1862 from last year the capture code in JoeQuake was rewritten and improved so that the sound and memory doesn't get messed up if you stop and restart capturing.

3. Start JoeQuake 0.15 and type this in:

capture_codec "DIVX"
capture_fps "15"
capturedemo demo1

The AVI will be in your quake/capture folder

4. The above simple demo process is an example. You can use VirtualDubMod to take several clips and combine them http://virtualdubmod.sourceforge.net/

Obviously there are a lot of applications out there to do all sorts of things but many of them have to be bought (example: http://www.muvee.com/en/ )

[Mr.Burns]

hrmm... pro q?

That's the ProQuake engine recently improved by Baker. See the ProQuake page on this site for more details

also... back in the day i used to have this lil prog called "demoplay" witch worked for .dem files that allowed you to fast forward, rewind, pause the demo as you wanted. no one around would happen to have that prog or know where to find it?

The last time I made a movie with R00k's Qrack engine it has all of this and much more built in. As I recall rewind and play speed were controlled using the arrow keys but Qrack ha sa lot of eye candy to make your video look really nice.

Hope this helps

Kind regards

Monty

[cinsere]

thanks for all your help guys. i got it to work. just dont think its worth the time it will take to do what i originally wanted to do... =/
i wanted to make like a 20 min long movie like a highlight reel. bits and pieces of demos strung together from differnt dm/ctf/ca games

[metchsteekle]

hehe, 20 min movie is like a 4 day+ job,

but i too have a movie making problem, when i put it togethor and finish it i get this thing where half of the vid screen is a green bar, and it makes me mad >:,

i think it has somthing to due with using crappy windows move thing maker :p
but it happens to be the easist thing to use ;/, any suggestions how to fix would most likly help

[Baker]

thanks for all your help guys. i got it to work. just dont think its worth the time it will take to do what i originally wanted to do... =/
i wanted to make like a 20 min long movie like a highlight reel. bits and pieces of demos strung together from differnt dm/ctf/ca games

It's easy. I wouldn't give up. It actually takes no time at all to make something basic.

Works like this:

1. With piece of paper, watch the demos in Qrack or JoeQuake and record the start and stop positions you want where something cool happened. A list would look like this ...

demo1 0:15 - 0:31
demo2 1:15-1:25
ctfmatch1 2:49-3:25
mydemo 4:15-5:05

2. Start up JoeQuake 0.15

Type viewsize 120 in the console to get rid of HUD
Type crosshair 0 in the console to get rid of crosshair
Type con_notifylines 0 in the console to make sure no console text prints

And the prerequisite stuff if necessary

capture_codec "DIVX"
capture_fps 15

3. Bind "[" and "]" for start stop keys as such:

bind "[" "capture_start demo1"
bind "]" "capture_stop"

4. Start doing each demo

Play demo1. Using the arrow keys fast forward to where you want to start capturing. When you get there press "[" and when you want to stop press "]"

Now, change the "[" bind for demo2.

bind "[" "capture_start demo2"

Play demo2. Using the arrow keys fast forward to where you want to start capturing. When you get there press "[" and when you want to stop press "]"

Now, change the "[" bind for ctfmatch1.

bind "[" "capture_start ctfmatch1"

Play ctfmatch1. Using the arrow keys fast forward to where you want to start capturing. When you get there press "[" and when you want to stop press "]"


Now, change the "[" bind for mydemo .

bind "[" "capture_start mydemo "

Play mydemo . Using the arrow keys fast forward to where you want to start capturing. When you get there press "[" and when you want to stop press "]"

5. At this point, in your quake/capture folder you have 4 AVI movies:

demo1.avi
demo2.avi
ctfmatch1.avi
mydemo.avi

6. Use virtualdubmod to string them together. It's easy.

AND!

If you want a title screen without a lot of fuss, just make a graphic and use it as your muhbad.png texture and record a couple of seconds staring at the wall at DM2. That's where the "Dredd" movie first 5 seconds came from.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Rather than making your demo length based on how much time you want involved , take 1 or 2 songs and tally up their running times.

if you have two songs, one is 2min 33sec and the other is 3min 22sec , you'd have a total of 5min 55sec.

Convert everything you want to be included into an AVI format,regaurdless of how you get it,that part doesnt matter. Download VDM and Open your first AVI file, then delete whatever it is that you do not want.

Append each and every other AVI file you have, being sure to edit each time you append. Once you have the length of time required by your songs (I suggest mp3's btw..) You can add the music files.

I played with this quite a bit a few years back,thanks to Chuck's guidance post @ tltq

[Mr.Burns]

Sounds reasonably achievable.

1. First convert your demo's in to avi's (sounds like you can already do this using JoeQuake/Qrack/GLProQuake but Baker has already given you some useful tips on how to get the best results)
2. Fire up a desktop video package like Movie Maker* (which is free with Windows XP SP2)
3. Import your clips and arrange into the order you want
4. Chop out the bits you don't want
5. Add any effects, music or titles you want and edit so it all fits nicely together.
6. Save movie as a file
7. Post here for all to enjoy :d
   

* If you do use MovieMaker ensure that you repeatedly save along the way as it has a habit of crashing at the most inopportune moments

If your looking for some examples perhaps have a look at some of the movies on my YouTube page to see what's achievable. Sorry about the YouTube Quality

Hope this helps

Kind regards

Monty

[Mr.Burns]

...but i too have a movie making problem, when i put it togethor and finish it i get this thing where half of the vid screen is a green bar, and it makes me mad >:,

i think it has somthing to due with using crappy windows move thing maker :p
but it happens to be the easist thing to use ;/, any suggestions how to fix would most likly help

The following may help:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;EN-US;Q898549
or
try turning of overlays: tools>options>performance tab>advance>check "Use high Quality Mode"
Or
Here was one suggestion I noticed on one of the forums (use it at your own risk)...

1. Uninstall the Nimo Codec Pack and any other codecs you have tried installing – get rid of them ALL!
2. Shut down your machine.
3. Restart the thing – duh.
4. Download the FFDSHOW 01-03-2003 alpha from http://www.dawnload.net/video_softwa...ls/ffdshow.cfm or http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...rs/ffdshow.cfm or just do a search for “FFDSHOW Filter” and look for the one with the date 01-03-2003.
5. Now install the Nimo Codec Pack first, BUT make sure you uncheck the “Ffdshow DirectShow 2002-04-19” under “DirectShow Filters” and keep hitting “Next” until the install completes.
6. Now install the “FFDSHOW 01-03-2003” you have downloaded (it’s 9 months newer than the other one and you will see that makes all the difference). Just accept all the default settings and keep clicking “Next”. ..."

Hope this helps

Monty