Shell hull model?

[ezzetabi]

Do anyone played Shadow Warrior?

In Shadow Warrior when you use Shotgun the shell is visibly eject and stays on the ground.

I wanted to the game in quake, is there a nice shell hull model?

[gdiddy62]

DPmod has shell casings that stay.

[talisa]

would be cool if that would be implented in the SMC too.

i never thought about it, but its kinda odd that theres no shell casings falling to the ground when firing SG and SSG.

[gdiddy62]

Lots of coding I think.

[ezzetabi]

What is SMC? And SG and SSG is shotgun and super shotgun I guess... Am I right?

[talisa]

@ezzetabi
SMC is short for small mod compilation: http://quakeone.com/forums/quake-mod...mpilation.html
it is an amazing mod by seven which enhances quake by adding features which the original game didnt have cuz it was rushed and such. like nails sticking into walls, gibbable corpses, physics which make enemies be pushes back lightly when shot, weapon recoil, completely redone particle-effects which look a million time sbetter then original quake, extended blood effects, using multiple skins per monster, new awesome death animations, and a ton more
i really recommend giving it a try, its the best mod for quake. its like what dukeplus does for duke3d

and yes of course i meant ShotGun and SuperShotGun

[ezzetabi]

Oh, yes I do know Small Mods Compilation, but I am not good with TLA.

I like it, but usually do not use those things because they give weird effects to non-id maps (the ones that need a -game). Try Unforgiven with Small Mods Compilation and you will get the idea.

If I get the model I will do this small mod and ask Seven to include it!

[_Smith_]

You'll find models and a code to get you started in DP mod, but I've already implemented casings on top of SMC.

I am going to release an addon to SMC with them and few small changes ( everything will be optional ) about a week after Seven will release a new version.

[Seven]

Lots of coding I think.

Hello Jeff,

Why you think so ?
When you look at it from a distance and think about it, you will see that the shell is just an entity that has to be spawned when the shotgun animates.
There is not much left to do.

I think this is a good opportunity to try it yourself.
Remembering you already started to work with QC when Nahuel brought the "Trinity" effect into play.

In fact, all the things you need for it are already in the SMC.
You only need more or less 1 function for it.
Use the function "zombie_head ()" inside file zombie.qc for your base.
It has basically all you need
- set start position and start angle of the shell.
- spawn the entity
- give it the MOVETYPE_BOUNCE (which a shell should have too)
- set a random velocity (to the right side) and spin
- sets a time when the shell shall dissappear (maybe 10 seconds ?)

This function must be called once for the shotgun and twice for the supershotgun.

Call the function in the animation frame function for the weapons (= "player_shot2 ()"), or directly inside "W_Attack ()".

I am sure you will have fun playing around with it.

I would not suggest using the way LordHavoc did it in his dpmod.
LordHavoc has its very special way of coding and it is many times "too special".

Have fun,
Seven

[ezzetabi]

- sets a time when the shell shall dissappear (maybe 10 seconds ?)

I agree with everything, but I would say 10 minutes or so. The fun of shell or nails that remains is seeing them in the final screen or while running around. With 10 seconds it becomes only an exercise of style!

[talisa]

i personally would love it if the time shells stay would be settable through a cvar, and it also has an option to stay forever

i always find it weird if stuff like that magically dissapears.
just like its a shame nails sticking in walls dissapear after a bit, would be awesome if there'd be an cvar too to set how long they stay and you can also set for them to stay forever.

i love it if you can come back all the way after nearly finishing a map and finding everything you left is still there, like corpses and bloodsplats and bulletholes and such are all still there.

[ezzetabi]

I agree with you for SP or Coop games, but a long deathmatch game might literally cover the floor...

[talisa]

lol of course. only in sp they should stay indefinitely of course.

dont play mp much though, only coop sometimes

[Mindf!3ldzX]

I agree with everything, but I would say 10 minutes or so. The fun of shell or nails that remains is seeing them in the final screen or while running around. With 10 seconds it becomes only an exercise of style!

I haven't spent excess of 10minutes on a SP-Q1 map in a long time, probably last one was RMQ,which was breath of fresh air.

[Seven]

Do not worry about the "staying time" question.
It is a standard line of code, to add an auto_cvar that handles it.
The smc is flooded with those. lol
That is what the "small mod compilation" is made for. To be adjustable to personal likings.


@ splitterface

It is not a good idea to keep decals like blood or bullethoes forever in a map. Each one will use a tiny little bit of performance. And in a big long map, these tiny bits can become a big mouthfull quickly

By the way:
DarkPlaces gives you the possibilty to let them stay forever via engine cvars:

cl_decals_max is "4096" ["4096"] maximum number of decals allowed to exist in the world at once
cl_decals_time is "20" ["20"] how long before decals start to fade away

Never forget to visit the dpwiki if you have some questions...
You will most probably find the answer there.

Have fun,
Seven