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  • Why did idsoftware remove the grappling hook from Quake 3?

    I remember that idsoftware actually wrote down the computer code for the grappling hook. But for some reason, the people of id removed the grappling hook during the last five minutes (obviously, I don't literally mean five minutes, but I think that you get the idea...) Why did they remove the grappling hook from Q3? If they had kept the grappling hook, they would have kicked Unreal Tournament's butt! I like UT, but Quake 3 Arena is the real grand-daddy.
    "Through my contact lenses, I have seen them all, I've seen wicked clowns and broken dreams / Crazy men in jumpsuits trying to be extreme and messing around with your computer screen" - Creative Rhyme (03/23/2012)

  • #2
    Originally posted by RL Clown View Post
    I remember that idsoftware actually wrote down the computer code for the grappling hook. But for some reason, the people of id removed the grappling hook during the last five minutes (obviously, I don't literally mean five minutes, but I think that you get the idea...) Why did they remove the grappling hook from Q3? If they had kept the grappling hook, they would have kicked Unreal Tournament's butt! I like UT, but Quake 3 Arena is the real grand-daddy.
    I had no clue quake 3 even attempted to add a grappling hook. As for UT i was never a fan of it. I played Q2 for the first time in years last weekend and the server had a grappling hook and no one out of 9 people on the server would tell me how to use it (yes i could have googled it) but why play with assholes who wont help? I finally figured it out on another server and yes i used google but would not return back to that server atleast at that moment.

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    • #3
      I'm a grapple fan, love UT as well and still play once in a while. As it always happens once I start playing around with Quake again I want to play Quake2 and to a lesser exant q3a. Back in the day if it wasn't MegaTF, TF, Quake coop or ctf i would be playing Quake2 Weapons Factory, Q2CTF, LMCTF, Lithium or Chaos!! Found most of my old stuff in my 10gb quake archive so give me a few days to get my q2 sh!t together and I'll play a game of it with you.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by wicked_lord View Post
        I had no clue quake 3 even attempted to add a grappling hook. As for UT i was never a fan of it. I played Q2 for the first time in years last weekend and the server had a grappling hook and no one out of 9 people on the server would tell me how to use it (yes i could have googled it) but why play with assholes who wont help? I finally figured it out on another server and yes i used google but would not return back to that server atleast at that moment.

        lol, put in half assed effort get half assed result!

        Google, you could have HMMM YESSSSS!



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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mindf!3ldzX View Post
          lol, put in half assed effort get half assed result!

          Google, you could have HMMM YESSSSS!



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          Simple question : what is the command for use hook?
          9 players : lol ..

          Just like quake when a new guy spawns on quaketx and asks a question they get fucking laughed at. Instead of being a pure dick answer the question you 12 year old scumbag.

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          • #6
            knowledge is power.They was correct to assume telling you would tip the scales of fairness back into your court!

            besides IMO the Q2 Lithium hook was trashy compared to Q1's variants.

            [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZXpFpCX3Jo]Absolute Mayhem - Quake 2 Lithium - YouTube[/ame]

            That red laser/beam of light was supposed to be the hook. hahaha, YEA OKAY! IMO completely worthless,much like that slow fn Trinicom hook. It BARELY moved faster than you could run,IIRC you could outrun the hook if you wall strafe.
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            • #7
              I still love the grappling hook in Remake Quake, unfortunately we really couldn't use it like it should be used (which is swinging like Tarzan) because most players already balked at the very idea of a grapple in single player and would rather noclip. Players didn't understand that the grapple worked with momentum instead of just pulling you toward it.

              It was possible to reach incredible airspeeds with that hook.

              Bort's swinging grapple is the greatest hook ever made for Q1.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by golden_boy View Post
                I still love the grappling hook in Remake Quake, unfortunately we really couldn't use it like it should be used (which is swinging like Tarzan) because most players already balked at the very idea of a grapple in single player and would rather noclip. Players didn't understand that the grapple worked with momentum instead of just pulling you toward it.

                It was possible to reach incredible airspeeds with that hook.

                Bort's swinging grapple is the greatest hook ever made for Q1.
                That sounds like what Yugo2hecK used as the IHOC mod hook!

                Instead of like at Shmack, where it would connect and drag you at mach3, it could drag you and have a slinky effect..... brb making a video of it.

                [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ReMlP7DPM[/ame]
                Last edited by Mindf!3ldzX; 11-17-2014, 10:04 AM.
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                • #9
                  There's a grappling hook in Quake 3.

                  type /give grappling hook
                  then type /weapon 10
                  then have fun with the grappling hook!

                  Although none of the iDmaps had the grappling hook, I believe user maps can place them just like any other weapon.

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