CA: Bomber modifications poll

[Canadian*Sniper]

I'm making this poll to determine what the public wants. It occurs to me that servers with something unique in them really make them enjoyable. QuakeOne DM has the walljump, IHOC has the jetpacks, Bomber had a customized Shotgun. Truth be told, Bomber with that modification was the only reason I started playing in the CA servers. The powerful shotgun didn't bring TOO MUCH of an advantage on the other weapons but it gave a lower class weapon a time to shine.

So the purpose of this poll is to see what the PEOPLE want in bomber. I have not contacted Yellow and Baker about making this thread so it's understandable that this poll will not contribute to anything. But here's a place for voices to be heard.

Poll options explained:


Increased damage - x2, x3, x4 damage to the shotgun blasts
Knockback - knock players back like the explosives and shaft
Options 1 and 2 - increased damage AND knockback
No changes should be made on Bomber - no modifications done

Here's what Phenom, the original host of Bomber, has to say with me about the shotgun.

(2:16:49 PM) Danno: what are your opinions on the increased shotgun damage?
(2:17:00 PM) Danno: because if you don't care, then I'll stop bitching about it
(2:19:01 PM) P h e n o m: Well.. I rarly use the less powerful weapons because there LESS powerful, which kinda makes for a predictable game, ROCKET LAUNCHER, LIGHTNING GUN, GRENADE, LIGHTNING GUN... having a lower class weapon that shows a much more useful advantage over its previous state would increase a match simple because there would be different stratagies implimented dew to there being a different weapon used.
(2:19:40 PM) Danno:
(2:19:43 PM) P h e n o m: Maybe not 4x.. 4x was alittle extreme
(2:19:58 PM) Danno: I'm going to create a poll on quakeone then
(2:20:03 PM) P h e n o m: maybe make it a bit more powerful and add a nice kick to it
(2:20:09 PM) Danno: can I have permission to take this MSN convo?
(2:20:19 PM) Danno: haha
(2:20:22 PM) Danno: x100?
(2:20:26 PM) P h e n o m: make it to where the shot gun can knock other players around
(2:20:48 PM) Danno: shotguns ARE supposed to be powerful
(2:20:57 PM) Danno: blast someone across a room
(2:21:09 PM) P h e n o m: Sure, i've always felt that way about the shotgun and DB shotgun.. when you shoot someone its like there being hit by a rock.. not a truely powerful weapon.

Sorry for being brief on this thread but I have to leave to do some shopping. I can answer questions here if I was unclear

[Monster]

I say just knock players back.. It would add a nice twist to the game, but not be too excessive, as in the increased damage. For example, you could shoot someone in DM3 to knock them in the water and catch them off guard.

[Canadian*Sniper]

I say just knock players back.. It would add a nice twist to the game, but not be too excessive, as in the increased damage. For example, you could shoot someone in DM3 to knock them in the water and catch them off guard.

You are correct. Adding instant knockback leads to different strategies of gameplay that have to be learned. Sounds fun

[QuadRaptor]

Bet you'd like the shotgun thing, since that was your first weapon tactic.

[Canadian*Sniper]

Bet you'd like the shotgun thing, since that was your first weapon tactic.

I'm not the only player that uses shotgun when the opponent is far away Judging by the votes, I'm not the only one who'd like it either

You are right though. I would choose shotgun over rocketlauncher any day.

[Bank]

Add a BFG.

I have spoken.

[foq]

Meh, I voted extra damage only but I want extra damage and kick.

[Phenom]

Well Polls don't lie, these are the thoughts of the people who utilize the servers that were made for us.

I honestly am seeing a great desire to bring the shotgun out of the darkness and give it a time to truley shine. People wan't this modification for Bomber, running custom maps is AWESOME and I love many of them but there many other servers out there that mirror the Bomber maplist. Bomber needs this modification.

I first made the shotgun 4x modifcation just to mess with QuakeC and it wasn't even running on a server, I messed with the spread radius, pellet number and the power of the shot, I then decided to release it on the old bomber.ironrocket.com server to see how people responded, and the only complaints I got were from people who can run DM3 in mirror mode backwards and blind folded with their eyelids.. I'm not really concerned about these players as there set on where they decide to play but newcomers, everyone else either didn't mind it or enjoyed it, I also didn't see any abuse from the added power but it spiced up the action a notch. I myself didn't see a real advantage to this modification it felt more like an extra weapon that should sit next to the rocket launcher & lightning gun.

Its a great Idea
Whats there to loose by adding something unique? Like I said befor, it braught no real advantage over a match and alot of the "oldbies" will stick to their RL & LG. In this day and age playing quake isn't so much about who has the lowest ping anymore, its about how well you know the map/weapons/opponent, a modified shotgun would change that totally!

8 to 1 for a modfication to be made to Bomber.quakeone.com. People are trying to tell you something.

This is Phenom and I made this on a PC. F*CK Mac!

[Lardarse]

Sounds good... But 4x is too high, I think. It should be 2.5x at most.

[Monster]

Yep, I agree. And the kickback should be added too. Would add a nice suspense element. Like someone could be on the dm3 bridge, and you could shoot them off of it into the water.

[Canadian*Sniper]

A agree. With modifications like that, different strategies arise and therefor make this 10 year old game more fun. Without an altercation, Bomber is basically just CA without CheatFree.

[Phenom]

Hmm,

Everyones showing intrest in this modification so far, except the 1 person who voted to leave it as is, that vote doesn't count! Thats like if in the movie Brave Heart when William Wallace was giving the victory speech to his men on the last battle that only one guy just started running the other way!

I would love to see how a tricked out shotgun would change the game on Bomber.

Edit:

Lardarse is right 4x is to much damage, maybe half that, but the knockback from being hit with a tricked out shotgun sounds so fun that I wouldn't mind being his with it

Edit #2: It would definitly swat off the 0 ping shafters *COUGHTICALCOUGH* if it could knock them back and knock their aim off. I personally dont enjoy playing someone who has 0 ping and all they do is shaft, or even someone who just uses LG all the time. it gets irritating.