Vanilla Coop vs. Monsters Server w/Custom Maps?

[Baker]

RQuake is awesome mod that is really ideal for online cooperative play, it has an observer system and can do coop on maps that are incompatible with cooperative play due to some enhancements.

Some would like ability to play standard coop --- without the enhanced monsters and the powerups --- just normal Quake coop against the monsters on custom maps or even the original maps.

If RocketGuy added a vanilla coop mode server option to RQuake that eliminated the powerups and the customized monster attacks, would you be interested in it?

[Phenom]

Coop with custom maps but enhanced monsters or powerups sounds fun to me

[Monster]

I'd go for vanilla.. sometimes i like to hop on Rquake by myself when no one is around and play. It gets annoying getting killed 5 times trying to take down a shammy with 5000 HP. It would definitely be a good idea to add that, so I could vote for it when no one is around and have a normal SP experience (the monsters are simply way too hard for one player only).

Besides, a good SP map should be fairly hard without the powerups and enhanced monsters, if the monster placement is good. SP maps are all about the monster placement.

[scar3crow]

Phenom - I think you just described what is already out there... Baker is asking us about vanilla Quake coop. I can see it being fun, but it does have the bug of getting monsters stuck in choosing to fight between two different attackers.

My problem with coop, is the lack of coop, its just a race to kill more monsters than the other guy, and you can't hurt each other. This is generally true in RocketGuy's mod, as it is in Avirox's MegaTF coop (it is insane though, try it sometime, it uses a Diablo-esque monster randomization system with skill benefits). I do see some cooperation sometimes in DPmod coop, but that might have something to do with the fact that I'm always playing that with friends - and we get silly but effective ideas like covering each other with proximity grenades and then rushing the toughest monster without taking damage cause teammates cant hurt one another.

I am up for a vanilla coop server perhaps, but it would be worth your while to have a fix for the monster constantly switching targets.

[omicron]

phenom's going to start crying about racism and petitioning for there to be a chocolate coop too

[QuadRaptor]

I love how Omi just stays on here and cracks dumbass jokes like that instead of playing Quake, and then goes on about how he'd "5-0" everyone.

Such a poser.

[Baker]

Phenom - I think you just described what is already out there...

Correct, that's been around for a year at the RQuake server.

I am up for a vanilla coop server perhaps, but it would be worth your while to have a fix for the monster constantly switching targets.

If this happens, it will have that fix plus the observer system and global notification of players picking up keys/trying keys when they fail and seeing other players health, protected backpacks, etc. --- but it would just be normal coop with those fixes.

[Canadian*Sniper]

Yes I would.

NOTE: I always thought coop servers should have MORE monsters, not monsters with increased health

[Baker]

More monsters is not vanilla coop. That's modded game play.

[Canadian*Sniper]

That was just a NOTE Baker It meant that monsters with x1.5 their normal health is lame to me and that ever coop mod seems to go with that idea

[BizarroEvade]

Count me in.

[Lardarse]

I voted yes, but I would also vote yes to an invasion-type mode where monsters invade a DM map and you have to kill them.

And yes, I know that we have DPMod DMM7 and DMSP2 already...

[Canadian*Sniper]

I voted yes, but I would also vote yes to an invasion-type mode where monsters invade a DM map and you have to kill them.

do it! *cough* Soul Of Evil *cough*

[spooker]

Vanilla COOP would be boooooring

[foq]

spooker only plays runecoop. I have to take him to runecoop almost every time I see him.. I think he's addicted. Runecoop is a Quake Drug, don't be like spooker!! [/joke]