Speaknow

[Lerster]

This thread is specifically for SPEAKNOW the Chicago CAx server.

I'm posting this to notify every quaker of the forum and site, and in quake in general for whoever CA's or not.

I want everyone to know that there is no Message of the Day (MOTD) popup when you connect to the server telling you that you CANNOT CC (Color Change) into the game.

An repeatively single cc's into a game of 1v1 is bad, but if there is more then one cc'er and the ccing is level as in it'd become a 2v2 i don't see the problem?

Yet lots of people say this is absolutely wrong followed by very agressive insults and personally oriented assualts onto the individual they address.

I feel this is deeply wrong.

If there is to be a Color Changing law (going into a game) without asking, on public servers... please put it in the MESSAGE OF THE DAY.

I cannot stress this enough, as if it's there in the MESSAGE OF THE DAY, then i mean. If someone went ahead and did it, then the insults would account for something.

At the moment they are accounting for this fabricated rule that on PUBLIC servers people cannot join the game while a game is in process.

I think this is very redicolious but everyone calls me crazy, or weird, or strange and many, many, other things anyways.

So whatever.

That's my poop, on the subject.

End subject.

-Duely note, i will not be responding to any abusive messages that follow from me posting this, by repliers feeling i'm wrong for posting this. K~ByE-

[Canadian*Sniper]

Rook/Bam should just disallow people to CC in if the teams are even and the match has already started. There should be no need for admins if this was implemented.

[Fuzznut]

Everybody takes this so seriously. man this is just a game.

[bonbons]

GTFO CCER

[Yellow No. 5]

2 people were 1v1ing on speaknow on a pub server, then got mad because you and other joined...not sure why this needs to be a thread on the forums?

we just need a chi server for matches, and make it clear speaknow is for pub games.

[foq]

Don't 1v1 on the main port of a pub server! Go to dredd 26001 or something.

[Spoon]

Well, if it's you and one person left on a pub server and you start playing what's the big deal? You're supposed to leave for another less popular server just in case some people join during your match and can't wait patiently for 3 minutes? Since when are people not expected to show some common courtesy and just wait until the damn game is over? What's the big deal about cc'ing you ask. I would ask you, what's the big deal about waiting a few minutes and NOT cc'ing? Sure, if it's 3v3 or 4v4 and two people cc at once and keep the teams even then by all means go for it. Unless they ask you not to that is.. Do you goto a sports mall and just join in basketball games that are going on and say "what's the big deal this is a public place?". Ler accept the fact that people enjoy a little organization while playing a game on a public server and that if you cc you are opening yourself up to a wide variety of personal insults. I would suggest that if you act in a polite and civil fashion, then others will be more likely to follow suit.

[Dreadful]

I didn't know a rule or law had to be posted in order for people to have courtesy for others.
If you wanna cc alone, or cc with another person into a 1-1 or whatever the case be. Whats so hard about asking if you could. Waiting two minutes for the match to end, if the persons' request is no, isn't going to hurt you. Yes its a public server. But does that terminate any regards you should have for others?


Im not telling you to stop thinking of only yourself, nor am I telling you what to do, or how to act.

Just Quit Crying.

[Bam]

Undoubtedly any player who CC's a horrible team will usually be pressured by the rest of the players to leave that team. In some cases, a player purposely tries to mess the match up but this is rare. If that is the case, an admin is usually around to fix the problem.

In the long run, limitless CC'ing gives players freedom to choose the proper team. I don't think that should be taken away just because of a few cases of misbehavior.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

It doesnt matter where I live apparently , Rage ping is sweet,anything else is just turds in the toilet ;P

[R00k]

CC back in the day meant color-change or color-cheat as it was a *bug* in the orignal code by MUNGO, (or was it CRT), by simply spamming color ##.
In mid round one could change from one team to another or from observer into the game! I originally made ALL cc's a force vote, but somehow it was reversed. Holy fuck lets make this a standard option because people cant wait until the end of the fuckn game! Wow! I can hear it now, dont limit CC or else people wont play CA anymore! Move over P-MODE enter P-ARENA!!!

Jesus Cristo! imagine DM matches where people could randomly fuck the balance based on 'hey ya know i think i wanna CC to the winning team!'

Rook/Bam should just disallow people to CC in if the teams are even and the match has already started. There should be no need for admins if this was implemented.

I created an option called SETCCLOCK that locked the match but was never used


To whomever, please dont CC in a game when u connect. << MOTD

[Canadian*Sniper]

I created an option called SETCCLOCK that locked the match but was never used

A damn shame it's not used :/

[Spoon]

Not true. I have on more than one occasion used the cc lock and I think yellow 5 has as well.

[Dreadful]

You could improve the cc lock. I dont like using it because If the teams are even and two people want to CC evenly onto the two teams, the CCLock wont let them. So How about it is worked so that you can CC, but if nobody CCs with you to keep teams even you get set back into observer mode (nothing happens)?

[R00k]

Currently, SETCCLOCK, will lock out cc'ing unless teams are unbalanced.
In Ler's case a 1 v 1 in progress cannot be interrupted if this option is ON, but a 3 vs 4 can be. Y5 and I had a lengthly discussion about this, and Bam and I have flipped that coin a number of times. I agree with what Spoon says, I agree with Bam and pretty much the underlining ideal of this thread entirely. You got one side saying wtf is the big deal I wanna play CA and not wait in line as if its an RA server, but on the otherside, "hey we've been here, on an empty server, playing a 1 on 1 for 4 rounds cant u just wait..."

I have a beta version worked out to give admin's more options to the behavior of CC'ing. a.> completely wide open, or b.> locked (like crmod does for match mode) or c.> if someone wants to CC it creates a vote for everyone "playing" to accept.


Bottom line, even if you put up a fence the monkeys will still spit on you.