Poll: Has rude behavior overrun the servers?

[Baker]

USA servers only:



Anyone notice that the typical server experience involves a lot of rudeness? (USA only)

What server can you go play on without jerks? CA. No. DM. Definitely not, certain DM players are asswipe extraordinaires. RQ. No, seems like there are always 2 or 3 ultralame players who are less there to play than run their mouths.

In fact, it's not uncommon to encounter some flavor of douche bag trying to their pea brain occasionally here in the forums.

Why I think this is happening; how it is bad and ... possibly inevitable

1. Many players/choices scenario

If there are many players and many popular servers, admins use ban more often to keep things in check and players don't care too much because they can just go somewhere else.

If there is some iffy dude who seems like he might be cheating, just get rid of him and if he happened to be clean -- well, it's not a perfect world and he can play somewhere else.

2. One popular server scenario (aka admin-god scenario)

This was the old Widomaker server in a nutshell. Huge playerbase -- no equivalent alternatives. That server had like 15 admin back 5 years ago.

Get banned and you are entirely shut-out from your favorite game. Also leads to an environment of a lot of complaining about admin behavior.



3. Few players/few servers scenario (aka kiss rude players/cheaters asses scenario)

Certain players are very comfortable (too comfortable) and do whatever they want. The player pool is limited so almost everyone knows everyone else.

If a trend of rudeness develops, it becomes the new normal but a server operator doesn't want to alienate players.

At the same time, how could you possibly recommend anyone new ever playing there?

So the few players scenario leads to --- even fewer players.

The real question is: How do you solve that problem?

[Phenom]

The real question is: How do you solve that problem?

Make "quake chat" a separate entity from the "quake play", kind of an actual chatscreen instead of a console, lets face it, some people like to chat during games, so, when someone goes to chat make them go observer, force them to talk in MM2.

the attitude problem usually stems from an asshole going off at the mouth. So lets get some kind of mute function worked in where players can selectively choose who they want to not talk to them...


Give players more power over their game!

but thats just my suggestion.

[omix2]

Speaking of this, it seems every time I join a server now there's a new nobody I've never heard of trying to get a piece of me. I think you are mistaking the competitive element of this game with rudeness, because that's where I think it's coming from.

I'll join a server and some kid I've never heard of whose name I've never seen is usually claiming they beat me in a 1v1 "X years ago" and that I'm overrated and all ping.

This happens when I join either runequake or CA the most. Last time it happened it was paradise talking shit and I took her to speaknow, pinged up to 2x her ping and beat her 5-0 multiple times and laughed at / mocked her.

Bottom line: its the competitiveness of quake. It's not really rudeness, although I will be beyond rude to anyone trying to talk shit to me.

[Paradise]

Speaking of this, it seems every time I join a server now there's a new nobody I've never heard of trying to get a piece of me. I think you are mistaking the competitive element of this game with rudeness, because that's where I think it's coming from.

I'll join a server and some kid I've never heard of whose name I've never seen is usually claiming they beat me in a 1v1 "X years ago" and that I'm overrated and all ping.

This happens when I join either runequake or CA the most. Last time it happened it was paradise talking shit and I took her to speaknow, pinged up to 2x her ping and beat her 5-0 multiple times and laughed at / mocked her.

Bottom line: its the competitiveness of quake. It's not really rudeness, although I will be beyond rude to anyone trying to talk shit to me.

This is exact proof of the main concern displayed here.

You are a straight liar. I never scored 0. Phenom was present onto server and to my belief recorded demo.

Highest I had was within a point of beating you 5-6. Lowest was 2-6, I believe, not certain, I was focusing more onto the game at hand being played rather than the stupid score you seemlingly keep wrong track of.

I have been out of Quake for 2 months and I got into CA the month before that. This is proof to you that you are nothing special since I have not played that long, I am not versed into it and I come from RuneQuake as Slugnut.

You are a pointlessly inflated ego which serves no purpose other than to harm our already dwindling community.

You are a parasitical excrement, the principal problem of this small community and you thrive onto the compassion and leniency of the Admins to keep you here and allow you to run your endlessly pointless self-induced egotistical orgasmic rampage through what remains of it.

And finally, nice way of trash talking me onto an unrelated subject when all I did is courteously offer to give you a game of CA when you were bitching of dying of boredom onto the RQ server. And I never talked shit from the RQ we came from, all I did was play and mind my own business when you started with your shit as usual.

Once there, you started with your big mouth of "how you own me" regardless of ping. All of which was totally unnecessary and uncalled for when scores were not even that far apart. Give me more time and I will master this mod as well, ask Frenzy about my performance, he knows, as I had many games with him 1vs1 as my training buddy.

Your meaningless post is an embaressment to yourself and to us who chose to keep you here. You are exactly what Baker exemplifies and you are too dumb to realize it because you do not see beyond your selfish self.

Of course everybody hates you dumbass since you harass and antagonize everybody. Why act surprised? All this proves your clueless stupidity of enormous proportions.

Thanks for providing the ideal example for Baker's point of view and concern of our small Quake Community, idiot.

I voted YES, with Omicron being the principal instigator.

[QuadRaptor]

The sad truth is that rude behavior has always been integrated in the game. Even in the early years of Quake, I can still remember getting on my old servers like quake.zebra.net, quake.argon.org, or quake.fundy.net and there being a few players just trash talking everyone. For me, it wasn't a huge deal since I learned to get used to the language, but I'm sure this kind of behavior drove many players away from the game who probably took the language too seriously. It is unfortunate that the community can be affected by such a simple, yet terrible problem.

The only two suggestions I can consider:

1 - Inform new players not to take trash talk seriously. This I believe is a general solution, though it would take our community's participation in order to get it to work.

Example (though I don't talk like this) :
QuadRaptor frags a new player named Ben.
QuadRaptor - "I just pwned your ass noob!"
Baker - "Don't listen to QuadRaptor, Ben. He's always been an asshole."

2 - Ignore Feature. I've always liked the ignore feature on games like Halo. If some dickwad keeps yapping about how they "pwn you", you can go to the scoreboard and ignore them within seconds. I know we have this system in Quake, and I think it would be really useful if there was a user-friendly way to do it quickly. I think the biggest problem for new players is that they don't know about the mute feature in the game.

Just some thoughts.

[omix2]

This is exact proof of the main concern displayed here.

You are a straight liar. I never scored 0. Phenom was present onto server and to my belief recorded demo.

Highest I had was within a point of beating you 5-6. Lowest was 2-6, I believe, not certain, I was focusing more onto the game at hand being played rather than the stupid score you seemlingly keep wrong track of.

I have been out of Quake for 2 months and I got into CA the month before that. This is proof to you that you are nothing special since I have not played that long, I am not versed into it and I come from RuneQuake as Slugnut.

You are a pointlessly inflated ego which serves no purpose other than to harm our already dwindling community.

You are a parasitical excrement, the principal problem of this small community and you thrive onto the compassion and leniency of the Admins to keep you here and allow you to run your endlessly pointless self-induced egotistical orgasmic rampage through what remains of it.

And finally, nice way of trash talking me onto an unrelated subject when all I did is courteously offer to give you a game of CA when you were bitching of dying of boredom onto the RQ server. And I never talked shit from the RQ we came from, all I did was play and mind my own business when you started with your shit as usual.

Once there, you started with your big mouth of "how you own me" regardless of ping. All of which was totally unnecessary and uncalled for when scores were not even that far apart. Give me more time and I will master this mod as well, ask Frenzy about my performance, he knows, as I had many games with him 1vs1 as my training buddy.

Your meaningless post is an embaressment to yourself and to us who chose to keep you here. You are exactly what Baker exemplifies and you are too dumb to realize it because you do not see beyond your selfish self.

Of course everybody hates you dumbass since you harass and antagonize everybody. Why act surprised? All this proves your clueless stupidity of enormous proportions.

Thanks for providing the ideal example for Baker's point of view and concern of our small Quake Community, idiot.

I voted YES, with Omicron being the principal instigator.

YOU GOT RAPED 5-0, 5-0, 5-2, 5-0, 5-2 AT 2X YOUR PING. I pinged up to 90-100. You pinged 50. You got 5-0'd by someone 2x your ping, multiple times.

RAPED.

And no, you never got more than 2 rounds.

[Phenom]

5-0, 5-0, 5-2, 5-0, 5-2 AT 2X YOUR PING.

Paradise, while I didn't agree with Omicron's attitude towards winning constantly, he did whoop you pretty bad, I really think you will need more then a month to be up to elite status on Clan Arena... some of us have been playing Clan Arena for years. Its not just a matter of aim in CA. Its a matter of out witting/thinking/smarting (whatever you want to call it) your opponent, which Omicron had you on almost every single drop.

The best thing to do is relax, make your self some hot chocolate and repeat to yourself "Its only a game... Its only a game... Its only a game" and not let others get under your skin and worry about what someone says about you on a forum.

Really, I'd like to see less posts of you two (omi & para) bitching at each other.. that type of stuff lost its flare a while back

Instead, become friends, make a clan together

In the end, you are letting digital words coming from someone who doesn't know you form Adam get under your skin, which only shows how thin your skin is

Talk is cheap.

[Paradise]

There is nothing to argue anymore.

I know my worth. Nothing stands into my way. And I can not be put down. I am impenetrable. Nobody and nothing can break me.

Coming at 5-6 at one of the rounds is definitely a huge accomplishment and hearing Omicron whine into disbelief is definitely a sight to behold.

If I got this close playing one month vs years how much he claimed to be played, I rest assured I will catch up and exceed him as I did over countless other challenges.

Peace, gg and see you onto servers.
-T.

[Paradise]

Keep refreshing the pages, Omicron, I see you following me into every thread. LOL!

You have nothing better to do onto a Sunday afternoon with great weather outside. I am at work that is my excuse, what is yours? Ya, you are the lozer.

[Phenom]

If I got this close playing one month vs years how much he claimed to be played, I rest assured I will catch up and exceed him as I did over countless other challenges.

you didn't get close to anything He literally beat the crap out of you heh =] with a 2x ping handicap and his broken laptop mouse heh.

You can't make shit into gold just by saying its gold.

[Phenom]

Go give him fellacio then, since you admire him so much!

I disagree, I beat the crap out of you both. Now, begone trolls! Take him by the hand and go outside, you both need sun.

You need to learn the difference between pure fact and taking sides.

I was there, I watched the whole thing, I'll make youtube videos if anyones intrested. Shouldn't I be entitled to my opinion on how the match went?

Resulting to insults already Paradise? You must have a sensitive ego from your mentality you express.

I don't admire Omicron, I gave my impression of you're little pissing match to see who can piss the farthest.. and it turned out Omicron pissed over your whole house

[Paradise]

Go give him fellacio then, since you admire him so much!

I disagree, I beat the crap out of you both. Now, begone trolls!

OMG! You are refreshing too, take him by the hand and go outside, you both need sun.

Broken mouse? If he said he jumped off a building and survived, you are sure to follow, lawl.

Actually I can do anything! Did you not know I am an alchemist!

You are both shit, I am gold, case closed.

The Sportsmanship Attitude prevails over all. Something you both lack.

[Phenom]

Paradise, repeat after me...


Its only a video game...
Its only a video game...
Its only a video game...


Breath deep...

[Paradise]

Phenom, repeat after me...

"I am only a troll..."
"I am only a troll..."
"I am only a troll..."

"And I am "pwned" by Paradise everytime I get out of line... *sniff*"

I am really tempted to put you onto ignore, you and your boyfriend Omicron. Perhaps I should start a poll onto that, hmm.... I fail to understand why you keep going back and forth with me, endlessly. Have you no life? I am at work and this is the closest thing to Quake while I am taking breaks from working onto my drawings.

It seems I have to be the strongest one and block you both out for the sake of your uncontrollable shitting and derailing ALL the threads I participate into.

For the record, I have read threads into the past where numerous people stated you are annoying as f**k, troll and a stupid egotistical idiot. Therefore it is all known that your sincere observation is really biased with the intention of trolling for your own pleasurable gain.

Honestly, you fall a lick behind Omicron. You are getting closer to him though. Hence the constant intimate relationship, lawl.

Getting back to the original point of the argument: I never said I "pwned" anybody, but you failing to acknowledge it was at least a solid effort onto my part and putting me down for it, puts you into the same category as your bf.

Show Baker some respect and f**k off his thread with your personal flaming of me and tell your bf the same thing.

Really, man. Get a life and it seems I have to be the mature one and not address neither of you anymore, because everything you both say is into referrence to me and never the reverse.

Everybody is tired of both of your crap trying to prove me wrong, showing your endless psychotic obsession with me. So give it a rest already.

You get better by attending therapy and not typing endless posts to me. You are only making your "condition" worst, my dear. That goes for the both of you. Attend together. How romantic!

[QuadRaptor]

Please don't start this again.... -_-''

This isn't directed to any individual, but arguments like this don't get anywhere, nothing is resolved, and all it really does is hurt reputations.

Settle your disputes on Quake, please don't bring them here.