Moderating

[Baker]

You might have noticed that Souless responded to Spooker's question with "Well what is Spookers Question? I just see a big wall of text... " You say he's doing a fine job, and I'm not OK with how he's handling this.

What I've always done with the "wall of text" moderating criticism:

(For general purpose entertainment purposes only ... )

1. I look for the real issue.
2. I say "fuck it" to any emotion and address the real issue head on ignoring who said it and whatever potential personal offense I could have had or was supposed to have.
3. Look at the issue impartially and as a valid feeling of the person who stated the problem.
4. If possible, I try to explain what I was trying to do in one sentence.

I'm not saying I've always followed this, but 90%+ of the time I have.

I'm just saying that if someone types a wall of text, they aren't being an efficient communicator.

At the same time, someone who bothers to type a wall of text certainly is trying to be sincere and trying to communicate that and felt it was worth typing a few paragraphs of a run-on sentence.

But the thing is I was a forum-troll before I was an admin, so I often at other sites when I often needed to skillfully point out to some asshole admin why what that admin was doing was wrong.

But other times, patience and courtesy is a waste of time ... and really Souless did the right thing by just saying "fuck it" and banning Kimp. Sometimes you don't need a exercise a hell of a lot of patience, some people just like to fuck things up and they should be given the boot.

[Baker]

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Just two things, I think they are important to think about:

#0 However Souless moderates is fine by me personally. He's mature and a veteran of the community and is level-headed. Statement of confidence; enough said.

Anyway, thoughts ... and that doesn't mean they are right ...

Burying Kimp under a rug in the forums doesn't mean he's gone from the servers. The best thing to do is get the servers immune to Kimp-like behavior in the future. Maybe snuffing Kimp discussion isn't the best way to achieve snuffing Kimp-like behavior from the servers. (i.e., maybe the community should be reminded that Kimp is causing problems on the servers until he and other past and future type people would no longer be able to do so. Anyone remember a certain trash talking wiener-*** that got turned into a freebie kill by anti-wallhack and then had to resort to botting?).
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I don't view the problem as "Kimp" ... I view the problem that there can even be a Kimp. I mean there have been plenty of people causing problems in the past doing things similar to what Kimp as done (Omicron spamming after being banned, PlayeR fucking up games, some dipshit botting and coming back after a ban with a proxy).

Fixing the server administration isn't on anyone's "fun list" --- that sure isn't something that like "gee ... I've always wanted to make better server admin controls!" --- nope, that's flat out annoying and is not on my fun list or R00k's. I can think of 50 things I'd rather do, but that doesn't mean this isn't truly the most important one.

Maybe we as a community should not forget that this is a problem until it isn't. No joke, there is the capability of eradicating Kimp-like individuals (you should see the msgs between me, R00k, Solecord and EFESS in these last 2 weeks --- if you saw, you'd know how and why it would work -- but it still isn't a on "wow! that's fun" list but rather on a "ugh! That's unfun work " list.)