banned from cax.quakeitup.com

[Mindf!3ldzX]

ca'ers steal peeps from runequake-->dmers/ctfers steal peeps from ca----> and TV steals dmers/ctfers for co-op...the way its always gonna be!

unlikely rage-delete

[bluntz]

What the hell are you talking about? No one was complaining, you took it upon yourself to do the banning. So saying it is a thankless job is ridiculous since no one is asking you to do things that you're doing.

Also saying "nobody was actually banned" but meaning that they were only banned for a short time is not the same thing.

It's not a thankless job, in fact, it's not a "job" at all. It's ridiculous that some people just can't take responsibility for their actions and say "sorry guys, after doing some reflection on what has taken place, I can see I'm in the wrong". You have pretty much the entire Quake community with people who have played for 15+ years here telling you that you shouldn't ban anyone seeking to find players for their mod.

Moreover, Muller (or any other player for that matter) can choose to play any game they want. He's not "stealing" someone, when that person acted under their own power and left the CA server to go play elsewhere. Since when do we dictate where people want to play? DM/CTF players will often play CA until a game starts in another mod, then they will hop over to a different server. This is common practice in video games..

Bluntz, you're a cool guy, but clearly you're a stubborn individual.. I am too.. but if I was in your shoes.. I would look at the entire situation and see that what I did clearly wasn't in the best interest of the public, I think this is the duty of anyone who has "admin powers".. not to abuse it..

I think sometimes when you pass thor's hammer too quickly to an individual who has never held that kind of power before, they go wild with it..

ca'ers steal peeps from runequake-->dmers/ctfers steal peeps from ca----> and TV steals dmers/ctfers for co-op...the way its always gonna be!

@Papa
What your complaint centers around is that I took it upon myself to do anything,guys like you think there should be a complete breakdown before any attention is directed to a problem.You having a problem with my Temp banning solution is just another indicator what your real issue is that anyone had the nerve to do anything at all.
@Smokey
There is a right way and a wrong way to do anything.
Bum rushing a server and trolling in the middle of a match is blatantly the WRONG way.I never did anything to someone who used some tact and waited till a match was over.I did not ever in any way say nobody could talk about another server or mod,so please don't put words in my mouth.
@Ramp
Tal
See the posts above,I am not the Nazi you paint me as and you have your own axe to grind after your own elitist attitude of me not being in your league and general disgust about having to face me in the first round of last years tour.You remember that?
You would think that would have changed when I fragged your ass with the first kill of the event though,guess not.Some folks indeed have no idea what to do with power,weather that be adinistrative OR celebritive.
You do indeed have a duty to improve your community and stand up for the newb ,however distasteful you may find it,and show initiative as nobody should have to tell you to do something after the fact.
@Baker
Since most of the folks who have had issue with my attempt to clear the air have not seen the need or reason for it,or even worse as chris said, actually enjoy wearing the coat of many turds.I would like you to make it impossible for anyone not actually playing to not be able to talk,AT ALL.
Before this came to a head I had set the muted sideline up but either someone else changed it or the funtion itself was somehow disabled,leading to all this drama.

Special thanks go out to Krix and Omicron for motivating me to get off my ass and actually DO something.

[Rampage]

@Ramp
Tal
See the posts above,I am not the Nazi you paint me as and you have your own axe to grind after your own elitist attitude of me not being in your league and general disgust about having to face me in the first round of last years tour.You remember that?
You would think that would have changed when I fragged your ass with the first kill of the event though,guess not.Some folks indeed have no idea what to do with power,weather that be adinistrative OR celebritive.
You do indeed have a duty to improve your community and stand up for the newb ,however distasteful you may find it,and show initiative as nobody should have to tell you to do something after the fact.

To be fair, I had already said in another thread just about a week ago that I had an elitist attitude toward newbs and that I regret doing that while I was playing Quake. I think I pushed away a lot of new players that way. (You can check my posts if it befits you)

There are some fallacies in your post but nonetheless..

During the CA tournament, you would go outside and spam rockets toward the window as much as possible. Sure, it's a strategy, but we weren't pubbing. I didn't see the need for you to resort to going outside every single round and spamming multiple rockets toward the window. I wanted to get the match over with as quick as possible so I could move on to the next player, and you were making the process longer than it should have been... I understand now you were utilizing a set strategy, although I wasn't fond of it which caused me frustration. I had some choice words for you during that time, certainly didn't come off right.

[Rampage]

^this

Crow is in fact a good guy, that's part of the reason I was irritated. It would be nice if he would just admit he messed up, but at this point when everyone but mindz condemns his actions, that's good enough for me.


Ramp, I hope we can get a few ctf games in when you return. It's been a while.

yeah... I'm down

I just watched this ctf2m8 demo r00k sent me.. its me/dfg/spoon versus you/disco and a few other guys.. its a pretty good one.. finishes in the 400s for each team.. we always have extremely close finishes on ctf2m8.... some classics

check it out:

www.quakeone.com/qrack/demos/ctf2m8.dem

[Baker]

@Baker
Since most of the folks who have had issue with my attempt to clear the air have not seen the need or reason for it,or even worse as chris said, actually enjoy wearing the coat of many turds.

We all are going to work through this. Especially if people Disco and Ramp keep interjecting. Looks like cd make an attempt to reconcile with you.

We've got to work through these kinds of things so everyone is happy (including you, btw). Within reason.

I think the best way to solve this stuff is get everyone on the same team again. We used to really have this going a few years back.

[Baker]

I would like you to make it impossible for anyone not actually playing to not be able to talk,AT ALL.

In the next few weeks, we as a community will have to figure out how stronger server-side controls can be used correctly and "done right".

I'm going to save thinking about that until later, I've been trying to wrap up the stats thing in a way that even a server crash/restart cannot lose the data with no chance of duplication. The stats need to be good stats.

[omicron]

@Papa
What your complaint centers around is that I took it upon myself to do anything,guys like you think there should be a complete breakdown before any attention is directed to a problem.You having a problem with my Temp banning solution is just another indicator what your real issue is that anyone had the nerve to do anything at all.
@Smokey
There is a right way and a wrong way to do anything.
Bum rushing a server and trolling in the middle of a match is blatantly the WRONG way.I never did anything to someone who used some tact and waited till a match was over.I did not ever in any way say nobody could talk about another server or mod,so please don't put words in my mouth.
@Ramp
Tal
See the posts above,I am not the Nazi you paint me as and you have your own axe to grind after your own elitist attitude of me not being in your league and general disgust about having to face me in the first round of last years tour.You remember that?
You would think that would have changed when I fragged your ass with the first kill of the event though,guess not.Some folks indeed have no idea what to do with power,weather that be adinistrative OR celebritive.
You do indeed have a duty to improve your community and stand up for the newb ,however distasteful you may find it,and show initiative as nobody should have to tell you to do something after the fact.
@Baker
Since most of the folks who have had issue with my attempt to clear the air have not seen the need or reason for it,or even worse as chris said, actually enjoy wearing the coat of many turds.I would like you to make it impossible for anyone not actually playing to not be able to talk,AT ALL.
Before this came to a head I had set the muted sideline up but either someone else changed it or the funtion itself was somehow disabled,leading to all this drama.

Special thanks go out to Krix and Omicron for motivating me to get off my ass and actually DO something.

Why do you keep acting as if you are persecuted? You were the one banning me. Playing the victim is such an asshole move, it's beyond belief. You sound just as I have described you several times - severely mentally ill. I suggest you seek psychiatric assistance, and not as an insult or a joke.

[bluntz]

Why do you keep acting as if you are persecuted? You were the one banning me. Playing the victim is such an asshole move, it's beyond belief. You sound just as I have described you several times - severely mentally ill. I suggest you seek psychiatric assistance, and not as an insult or a joke.

Fine Omi let's just say that you are 100% correct and I am indeed a nutcase in need of shock treatment.I just got back from the shrink and He says I am the most healthy guy hes ever met.Not joking.
What would you prescribe me as your patient?
Fill me with your vast wisdom oh great one of the cheap game.
Edify me.

[Authentic]

nice admin code!

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Nice RQ Patrick

[Rampage]

I dont even have to watch it to know that I must have won that match and had 1st place as well.

ha.. I'm such a newb to these new engines.. I just pressed tab and realized you could see the player scores in a demo.. being used to proquake, I wasn't able to do that before.. good stuff.. I'll have plenty of demos to watch on the flight over.. lol

for the record that demo is a auto chasecam pov

[wicked_lord]

ha.. I'm such a newb to these new engines.. I just pressed tab and realized you could see the player scores in a demo.. being used to proquake, I wasn't able to do that before.. good stuff.. I'll have plenty of demos to watch on the flight over.. lol

for the record that demo is a auto chasecam pov

As far back as I can remember in pro quake you could hit the tab keys and it would display the scores

[Rampage]

As far back as I can remember in pro quake you could hit the tab keys and it would display the scores

Proquake 3.5.. pressing tab = menu

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Tal ,

bind tab +showscores

[Rampage]

thanks, but it's not necessary as of right now. I'm using directQ so I can see it organically without having to bind it during a demo.