Valve sodomizes the corpse of game modding scenes

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Garry's mod creator has weighed in now...


Paying for Mods | garry's blofg

Not a surprise there hahah.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

since i saw this ive been a huge opposer of the whole paid-mods thing,
and i just wanted to share this what i just got in my email with you all



https://www.change.org/p/valve-remov...AB_0Z4y78MopNc

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and as you can see in this screenshot i just made, valve has indeed removed paid mods from steam


ive been a huge opposer from this since the moment i heard about it,
and im glad to see its gone again thanx to all the people who've called out against valve

Valve has removed paid mods functionality from Steam Workshop - PC Gamer


Conclusion? "If we aren't getting paid, Mod creators are going to get paid"

thus, no donation button !!!

In my opinion, Skyrim already being well established with Nexus Mods (I've used them before) for free was a bone headed move from the get go.

[Zop]

Dang. I was getting ready to start charging players for good runes on shmack.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Dang. I was getting ready to start charging players for good runes on shmack.

LOL!!

I just wish a merger could happen, but fat chance on that happening..


10 ton man, Y U NO EXIST ON SHMACK?
AND MANY OTHER RUNES from the various authors of other Rune mods.

RQA,RQ+,BDA,and all those other rune mods that aren't on Shmack, should be resurrected, and to hell with any ego or bad blood in between those mod author's. Stow it! ,atleast, in my book anyway. I would totally break out onto the Rune scene again if these was brought back......

[JDSTONE]

i find this to be bullshit they are getting the game fan modders to work for them for close to free. in the process they could find a way to devalue the employees working for them. i have issue with the whole dlc thing any way if your going to sell me a game sell me the whole fucking game! you know the dlc are not so you know what would have been cool after thought. they had planed that game part from the start but just did not include it in the game. its like they are selling us shareware. i dont play a lot of new games but i did start playing rage and i came to a man whole cover and went to open it and it told me this door can be opened if you by the dlc. WTF if quakeinjecter ever asked for my credit card to download a new map i would lose my shit! or if i was told i need to pay extra to be able to pick up the gold key to open the next door! as gamers we are being fuck! i think ill just stay in 1996. the graphics may not be as good some times but games where 100% when you spent your money on them!!! (end rant feels better)

[Mindf!3ldzX]

i find this to be bullshit they are getting the game fan modders to work for them for close to free. in the process they could find a way to devalue the employees working for them. i have issue with the whole dlc thing any way if your going to sell me a game sell me the whole fucking game! you know the dlc are not so you know what would have been cool after thought. they had planed that game part from the start but just did not include it in the game. its like they are selling us shareware. i dont play a lot of new games but i did start playing rage and i came to a man whole cover and went to open it and it told me this door can be opened if you by the dlc. WTF if quakeinjecter ever asked for my credit card to download a new map i would lose my shit! or if i was told i need to pay extra to be able to pick up the gold key to open the next door! as gamers we are being fuck! i think ill just stay in 1996. the graphics may not be as good some times but games where 100% when you spent your money on them!!! (end rant feels better)

Feels good don't it?! (rant:thirty)

I believe if they had

-chosen a different game to implement this system
-wasn't such greedy fucks , and gave mod creators the lions share of profits
-approached the situation in a more tactful manner

it wouldn't have gone down the way it did....

Something tells me that them greedy fuckers already have another plan of attack / proposed game / business model in the works. I predict 3 things...

Half Life 3 will be that plan of attack, a game that has reached unicorn status!
It would make an excellent game to introduce it,and the business model will still be end up being Valve takes the lions share of the profits,except this time by using their own IP, they can basically do whatever they want and have free reign on what they do or don't do, modding would be allowed, but only through SteamStore.


PS : Speaking of mods, I'm so glad I didn't download a fn mod for GTAV to turn me into a damned cat or some dumb shit (because mafakkas are getting ban hammered for modding the single player / offline version of the game.) like a simple FOV adjuster.

I'm not positive but apparently someone created a rape-mod where basically anyone using it could sexually assault any other online player. Here's a bit of that story covered by the news guys over at Inside Gaming,which I'm close to unsubscribing to that channel,I just haven't went through the motions yet....lol

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Iubyfq1ww[/ame]

In case anyone wants to know why Lyle was banned from IG, that dumb fuck apparently shook his dick at traffic/public during a filming of an IG episode,and was permanently banned from the program for it.

I am amazed at the fn desperation of Machinima to bring someone back AFTER a stunt like that.... lol

[Shambler234]

PS : Speaking of mods, I'm so glad I didn't download a fn mod for GTAV to turn me into a damned cat or some dumb shit (because mafakkas are getting ban hammered for modding the single player / offline version of the game.) like a simple FOV adjuster.

I'm not positive but apparently someone created a rape-mod where basically anyone using it could sexually assault any other online player. Here's a bit of that story covered by the news guys over at Inside Gaming,which I'm close to unsubscribing to that channel,I just haven't went through the motions yet....lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Iubyfq1ww

I feel like I just got ripped off.

The main reason why i bought GTA V is because of the mods.
This reminds me of San Andras, and fans already found a fix/downgrade for that.

Guess i have to buy a separate hard drive, one that is modded and one that is clean.

[MadGypsy]

It's great that these companies are doing this!!! Now all it takes is for some indy gamers to build some good games that follow the old school method of buy a full game get a full game and these other companies will lose their shirt. This is the perfect time to strike for people like golden_boy and others of his calibur.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Rockstar either
-realized they fucked up?
?or?
-never banned anyone to begin with,and people make shit up on the internets all the time?


�I�m having soo much fun with GTAV on the PC but I just have one question about it, how come you are not allowing mods for it?� - @ClarkMatthew63
�Will I get banned from GTA Online for using a FoV Mod or Oculus Rift mod?� - @Mattophobia

We have always appreciated the creative efforts of the PC modding community and we still fondly remember the awesome zombie invasion mod and original GTA map mod for GTAIV PC among many other classics. To be clear, the modding policy in our license has not changed and is the same as for GTAIV. Recent updates to GTAV PC had an unintended effect of making unplayable certain single player modifications. This was not intentional, no one has been banned for using single player modifications, and you should not worry about being banned or being relegated to the cheater pool just for using single player PC mods. Our primary focus is on protecting GTA Online against modifications that could give players an unfair advantage, disrupt gameplay, or cause griefing. It also bears mentioning that because game mods are by definition unauthorized, they may be broken by technical updates, cause instability, or affect your game in other unforeseen ways.

Source @ Asked & Answered: The Rockstar Editor, GTA Online Updates, PC Mods and More | Rockstar Games

Update: Rockstar Has ?Taken Steps to Remedy? Poor Customer Support | Gamers Nexus - Gaming PC Builds & Hardware Benchmarks




I highly doubt I will mod GTAV anytime soon,I've played probably 2% torward 5% of the game haha. By the time I am ready to fuck around with mods , Rockstar and the modding community will definitely have their shit together and when that time does come for me to mod the game? I shouldn't have shit to worry about.

When people are first to get in on modding a game that is right out of the gate, like GTAV on PC, there are bound to be some casualties of being one of those early adopters.

I have also read online that GTAV isn't actually being modded its being hacked via DLL injections and shit like that. IDK, I am just following the news as it eventually gets to me. GTAV is sooooooooooo on the backburner.

I'm gonna sip that shit like it is tieguanyin tea, not chug it down like fn gatorade lol.

[Mr.Burns]

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10 ton man, Y U NO EXIST ON SHMACK?
AND MANY OTHER RUNES from the various authors of other Rune mods.

RQA,RQ+,BDA,and all those other rune mods that aren't on Shmack, should be resurrected... ....I would totally break out onto the Rune scene again if these was brought back......

Not wishing to derail the thread but in light of the above, if I get a few mins over the weekend I could probably revert port 26010 on newyork.servequake.com back to runequake plus if anyone is up for it? port 26010 was being used for a development project called Deadzone2 but unfortunately that isn't going to continue so the port is effectively free... just need a few players looking for a bit of light hearted Quake fun

Kind regards

Monty

[Ebisu]

I've seen the post you are referring to. It's just damage control. Anyone who paid money for GTA V on the PC (which might I remind you came out 2 years again on consoles and they are still charging 60 dollars, plus DRM and all that other jazz.) is a MASSIVE tool. I will not withdraw my statement.

People are getting banned left and right for simple mods like model changes.

I fully condone piracy of games made by companies that disrespect consumer rights.

[Tea Monster]

Modders have mortgages and bills too. If you make something of real quality, why shouldn't you get money for it?

[Ebisu]

Donation jars would be fine. Total conversions and (proper) 3rd party expansions are fine to straight up sell too. The biggest problem was that Valve's system was terrible and easily abused.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Not wishing to derail the thread but in light of the above, if I get a few mins over the weekend I could probably revert port 26010 on newyork.servequake.com back to runequake plus if anyone is up for it? port 26010 was being used for a development project called Deadzone2 but unfortunately that isn't going to continue so the port is effectively free... just need a few players looking for a bit of light hearted Quake fun

Kind regards

Monty

I just now came back to this post, I'm late~!


Woah hey RQP! Sure thing! Is there are RQA server out there anywhere?

[Mr.Burns]

I just now came back to this post, I'm late~!


Woah hey RQP! Sure thing! Is there are RQA server out there anywhere?

Hi Mindzy,

Sorry but I'm not familiar with RQA, is it RuneQuake Advanced or something?
On the subject of mods I did correspond with Dolemite some time ago about adding a BDA server but I got the impression he was not totally taken with the idea of adding it to the New York servers and would have preferred something more BDA dedicated such as it's own box. I could be wrong about this though
I'll try and find a few mins during this week to swap the mod on 26010 back to RQP.


Kind regards

Monty