First multiplayer tryout

[spooker]

wow mighty killer, i am impressed if you really managed to put that site together, because your posts look like they were done by a drunken 8 year old

[Baker]

That is an impressive site he made. I had similar thoughts when I saw the site yesterday.

[Riker]

y35 ind33d, ur 51+3 r00xx !!!11!

[Cataklysque]

its too easy to bunnyhop in quake world. you don't even have to have skill to bunnyhop in QW. and QW isnt that tactical if you can hop around the level so easily. In NQ you actually have to have control over your movement to bunnyhop correctly. in conclusion, QW feels like quake 3 and it sucks.

I would agree that it is easy to bunny hop in QW. I would disagree that it is easy to bunny hop well.

Secondly, bunny hopping is usually referred to as the jumps following the very first strafe jump. During these jumps you release the forward button and are able to gain speed by using various techniques with the mouse direction and left/right strafe.

Bunny hopping is impossible in online NQ as provided ticrate is at default. It is possible in single player, or on your own server.

A single strafe jump followed by subsequent jumps in order to MAINTAIN speed are possible in NQ. These are not harder in NQ. You can get significantly more speed in QW, but the technique is the same.

I define a good strafe jump as a first jump @ 480 or above.

Tactically speaking, the speed of the game does not detract from the tactics. It changes them, they evolve.

[R00k]

there is something wrong with Qrack every time i go into MultiPlayer & get out & then go into Single Player i see all the model and they are the WRONG FUCKING MODELS!!! like the zombies on the walls have the model of Green Armor its really FUCKING PISSING ME OFF!!! because i cant get into MultiPlayer & the only way i can fix the damn wrong modeling error i haft to FUCKING REINSTALL IT!!! even when i reinstall it it dose the same FUCKING THING!!! can somebody please HELP ME!!!:@

You obviously must have "customized" your models with the wrong name, or something ridiculous cause I cannot reproduce this error. I'd like to see a screenshot of this just for the sake of it. Does it happen with normal glquake also?

[Empezar]

@ everyone complaining about ezq: are we playing the same ezq? not seeing where your rockets are going? every single problem you are describing feels like you are seriously trying to be funny or something.

[Baker]

It's ye old NetQuake vs. Quakeworld argument. They're fun!

You'd have to be familiar with playing multiplayer NQ to compare and contrast.

In NetQuake, unless it is point blank you always have at least a chance to dodge a rocket because you get to see it coming.

Some players like Frenzy step to left and to the right of rockets (and even nails), it's unreal.

There a lot of differences between NetQuake and Quakeworld that Quakeworld-only players don't understand. Probably 6 major ones and 8 minor ones.

Don't worry about, it's just a fun re-occurring topic that ppl love to argue about

[scar3crow]

Empezar - Maybe were not, the ezQuake I played had silly confetti in the console, defaulted to a skybox thats about as Quake as My Little Pony - which I couldnt directly switch off in the Sky options, I had to change it to Faithful mode which along the way I hit Fastest or something inadvertently and so no gibs showed up and explosions did not bring particles... I have hardly looked at it objectively or thoroughly, but thus far, ezQuake is the worst source port I've used. Not because it is the lowest in quality, but because it could easily be wonderful but wants to default to rather ugly things (I still cannot get past that hideous and inappropriate skybox - and why isnt' there just a Skybox menu option under Simple Skys?)

Hardly objective, hardly thorough, don't claim it to be, but I didn't see any particular reason to use it over glqwcl.exe

[R00k]

Maybe I should play with you, I'm terrible

MORE COW BELL

[Aquashark]

Empezar - Maybe were not, the ezQuake I played had silly confetti in the console, defaulted to a skybox thats about as Quake as My Little Pony - which I couldnt directly switch off in the Sky options, I had to change it to Faithful mode which along the way I hit Fastest or something inadvertently and so no gibs showed up and explosions did not bring particles... I have hardly looked at it objectively or thoroughly, but thus far, ezQuake is the worst source port I've used. Not because it is the lowest in quality, but because it could easily be wonderful but wants to default to rather ugly things (I still cannot get past that hideous and inappropriate skybox - and why isnt' there just a Skybox menu option under Simple Skys?)

Hardly objective, hardly thorough, don't claim it to be, but I didn't see any particular reason to use it over glqwcl.exe

"Faithful" preset instead of "Fastest" and you're good to go..

the default settings in EZQuake are adressed to a big number of players.. old and new: the old players know how to turn off new gfx if they wish, while the new players like eyecandy in general and don't care about what's quakish and what's not.

In NetQuake, unless it is point blank you always have at least a chance to dodge a rocket because you get to see it coming.

??? and how can someone not see a rocket coming in QW?
i mean what do you mean by not seeing a "rocket coming"?

[Baker]

??? and how can someone not see a rocket coming in QW? i mean what do you mean by not seeing a "rocket coming"?

If you have 70 ping in Quakeworld and so does your opponent -- not too uncommon in the USA simply due to distances -- and you are playing a map like DM6 where it is a smaller map, rockets are virtually instant in Quakeworld.

In NetQuake, because there is no prediction involved, it's not.

[scar3crow]

"Faithful" preset instead of "Fastest" and you're good to go..

Well due to the nature of how the Options menu is set up, it seems that each preset only contains a few changes, rather than having a value for each thing - the upside is this allows quick mixing and matching, the downside is scrolling through the list seems to apply everything that doesn't have a different value in another preset. Hence you can get Faithful and Fastest things mixed. I hopped into the menu and was merely looking around, only to discover on coming out that apparently scrolling through a list was applying each item on the list. I guess I am just used to things like Apply Changes or Apply Preset.

old and new: the old players know how to turn off new gfx if they wish, while the new players like eyecandy in general and don't care about what's quakish and what's not.

my problem was i didnt know i was turning ON things merely by looking at the name of it... i dont really consider many of the additions to be eyecandy... more gaudy than pretty, but that is something that is totally opinion.

[Aquashark]

Well due to the nature of how the Options menu is set up, it seems that each preset only contains a few changes, rather than having a value for each thing - the upside is this allows quick mixing and matching, the downside is scrolling through the list seems to apply everything that doesn't have a different value in another preset. Hence you can get Faithful and Fastest things mixed.

each preset contains settings for over 150 variables (they are in fact .cfg's in /ezquake/cfg/ folder)

and Faithful preset does exactly what it is supposed to do.. changes every graphic variable to mimic the default QWCL setup.

I hopped into the menu and was merely looking around, only to discover on coming out that apparently scrolling through a list was applying each item on the list. I guess I am just used to things like Apply Changes or Apply Preset.

scrolling through a list applies each item? no.
you can change something by clicking with the cursor on the value or by pressing = or - (numpad + or - respectively)

If you have 70 ping in Quakeworld and so does your opponent -- not too uncommon in the USA simply due to distances -- and you are playing a map like DM6 where it is a smaller map, rockets are virtually instant in Quakeworld.

In NetQuake, because there is no prediction involved, it's not.

i have no idea what you're talking about. maybe you have a huge packet loss or something. in 2-3 years since i'm following the online QW community i haven't heard or experienced something like this (instant rockets).

[scar3crow]

I'll take a look at the cfgs some time.

Scrolling through the list of presets does, and thats what I was referring to, because in game you cannot see the names of the presets without applying them. Since some apply changes that others don't, and they apply automatically, you can get stacking. Such as Faithful mode without explosion particles or gibs... Since no other presets have values for gibs and particles, you have to go into Options to force gibs back on (Quake without gibs just feels wrong to me), and the explosion particles, all I could find was a console command in the docs. The presets apply things not obviously changeable and they apply without consent.

Granted I don't really have any intention of seriously using ezQuake, but this just struck me as such an odd design decision, the fact that none of the presets appear to be a complete set of variables changed, and the fact that you can't browse the list without applying them all.

[Paradi$e]

i tried qw long time ago and i was repulsed by the fact that i couldnt customize anything, settings like rollangle bob were non existent (or maybe i didnt know how to work with them)