A New CA Server?

[omix2]

Your nonstop trash-talking shows you are incredibly immature, and you have nothing but contempt for 99% of the quake community. These are not attributes I want in a server admin.

I don't know what you're talking about. You don't know me kid. Stop derailing the thread.

[Baker]

Im not sure what its running on, I cut a deal with one of the guys on a server hosting site. Im guessing Ill just be managing it via FTP. I do need a copy of the CAx mod though, will I be able to change the MOTD myself? And will it be the newest release?

http://www.quakeone.com/cax is where you download the mod from.

For the server, if it is Windows use Win ProQuake 3.99s:

http://www.quakeone.com/proquake/pro...80306_0436.zip

The command line would go roughly like this:

c:\quake\wqpro399.exe -game cax -dedicated 16

If it's Linux, you'd need to use sqpro and things get more interesting. sqpro is available at http://proquake.planetquake.gamespy.com

[omix2]

Well, I'm not bothering with this. It seems Dread and Yellow 5 are already telling this guy what to think and how to set up his server.
I asked him about ticrate, he said it would be "normal" because that's what dread told him. I asked him about caX rocket splash, and he said it would be "default." Once again someone who doesn't know shit about quake is trying to determine the course a server will follow. The stupidity inherent in some of the people in this community is starting to drive me crazy.

I will be supporting the new server at roots.quakeone.com, and welcome everyone to migrate to that server that has been having issues with speaknow.

Dread its funny when someone messages me telling me that you're telling them how quake works this and quake works that, and what settings are best. Let me remind you that you downloaded quake like 6 months ago and don't know shit. You're barely even good enough to kill our worst players. It wasn't enough that you shit on your own server by taking a few dollars to let yellow 5 do whatever he wants, you seem to be intent on doing the same thing elsewhere. Stay out of every other server's affairs, thanks.

[Baker]

Dread its funny when someone messages me telling me that you're telling them how quake works this and quake works that, and what settings are best. Let me remind you that you downloaded quake like 6 months ago and don't know shit.

Dreadful has been around for years and ran a server years back.

Omi, in most of your arguing you are very quick to bring personal attacks into stuff. I hope you don't do that in real life.

[omix2]

Dreadful has been around for years and ran a server years back.

Omi, in most of your arguing you are very quick to bring personal attacks into stuff. I hope you don't do that in real life.

Dread didn't know anything until yellow 5 taught him everything he knows. I don't see it as a personal attacks, I see it as facts. It is a fact that dreadful is bad at quake. It is a fact that dreadful let yellow 5 once again take the reins of the quake 1 community (FOR MONEY) and steer us in the wrong direction.

It is a fact that dreadful is now talking to this new guy and telling him what to think.

Now it's a fact that dreadful is apart of the same clique as yellow 5, people that stagnate this community and intend on keeping it fully submerged within 8 feet of shit.

Well I do not intend on wading through shit. I am sick of this shit. I'm sick of the worst 5% of players dictating how everyone should play, what settings each server should have, who deserves to be banned, what is "ok" to say and what isn't.

And when some dude comes along offering to start a new server, these same pieces of shit get involved and take the only alternative to the current shit infestation of quake servers and attempt to make it a carbon copy of the same shitpile that speaknow is now.

Whatever dreadful ran however many years ago, I guarantee it was some newb server no one cared about. The fact of the matter is he doesn't know shit, which is why he listens to yellow 5.

As for me, I do not intend on supporting this new server. It seems its just going to be a carbon copy of the shitstain that is speaknow. No one wants more of the same, just go away and keep your $70.

[MDerteau]

This is what I sent you:
I think you are missing the point of the server, which is to make it suitable for all, including "newbs". Not just advanced players. Quake is a dying community and needs all the help it can get. Im not trying to drive others away, I want others to be encouraged to play. With the ticrate set so low it allows the advanced to players to become more leet, which in turn frustrates the newer players that get "owned", it also starts to increase pings and cause connectivity problems, especially the higher your ping is already. This decision has been made. I am not letting others "color" what I think. Im only trying to make the server suitable for everyone to play at. Maybe you are expecting to go in a different direction than I am with this.

And:

It was my understanding from Dreadful that .025 was set as a standard by the owners of all the CAx servers. I dont wanna mess that up. Also, when the ticrate is set that low it bends the physics horribly out of shape and messes up the splash. With the ticrate set at .025 you still get the "smooth" and "fast" feelings without doing much damage to the gameplay. As for splash damage, I plan on having it set on the lowest, or "normal" setting.

And you come up with this?

I only asked Dreadful what the ticrate was set at and he told me that the server owners agreed to make all of the servers set at .025. That is all Dreadful has told me. So, I did a little research on what it actually does and the affects of it. You only want whats best for you, and dont care about anyone that isnt as experienced as you, or is a "newb". It is not a fact that Dreadful is talking to me besides the above statement which Was only a response to a question I asked him.

If you're so sick of it. Maybe YOU should leave. Nobody has infested my mind with their ideas, this is all my doing with other's suggestions noted.

[Lardarse]

So, I did a little research on what it actually does and the affects of it.

This, I applaud you for. Not because no-one else will, but because you're not willing to believe something just because someone else said it.

But back to your original point of discussion: Regardless of your decision on who to make admin, someone is going to be unhappy about it. I have two somewhat contrasting schools of thought about this. The first is that the most objective admin would be someone who will never play on the server. The other is that people will complain less about "favouritism" (whch appears to be the main argument here these days, in one form or another) if no-one is happy about it.

[Baker]

Dread didn't know anything until yellow 5 taught him everything he knows. I don't see it as a personal attacks, I see it as facts. It is a fact that dreadful is bad at quake. It is a fact that dreadful let yellow 5 once again take the reins of the quake 1 community (FOR MONEY) and steer us in the wrong direction.

Complaining can be a positive thing up to a point.

The positive of voicing complaints is to communicate what you feel is going on and see how others feel about a situation.

But once you go beyond that point, really you become a victim or worse (someone who comes across as enjoying being miserable).

A server from Fatpipes server or Essentrix only costs $20-$30 per month.

You could get one and run it how you like, you know enough players that it should be successful, especially considering the number of players you know.

Didn't you say you were wealthy or something? Or are you just a McDonald's dollar menunaire?

[JeSuS]

Hell yah

*COUGH*

after 3 posts he wants donations?

> > > [] < < <
insert coin here!

If you really wanted to bolster the community,(as most flies linger where the shit is), you should create a league of sorts.
Some people ping great a Rage and some better at speaky, etc...
Let people who ping better play at those servers, and create a weekly match; 1 game per server best of 3....

during the week people can practice freely at the server/map of their choice...

eh?

this corresponds with the "pldown 3 thread" do we need a 12 player server thats not FFA?! would any one consider a 4 on 4 on 4 CLAN MATCH??! then why funnel to 1 server simply cause everyone is there??

I am considering wiping the ban.cfg at rage, simply because its useless nonsense. I havent seen a case where a bot has been used, that deserves a perm ban. It was mostly a diarrhea of the mouth ban...

for sure we do need to set up a tourny and maybe ppl will start playing a bit more.. i mean geez we have four clans in quake that are active.. NfA, TU, SNS, and AY.. so lets get together and try something and get the ball rolling

[Dreadful]

Oh boy. More personal attacks omi? What is this 4th grade? I didnt tell this guy shit but what the ticrate is set at on SpeakNow and that the CA server owners agreed to make all servers set at .025. I told him nothing otherwise. And because he wont set the ticrate at YOUR preferred setting you already gave up on admining the server? HA. I knew you wouldnt last. I knew since the day it was mentioned and you came on speaknow and asked me about the ticrate and started shit talking about this guy, and talking about how all the settings were gonna be the way you wanted them to be.
FYI the ticrate was set at .01 for about the first week and a half. Thats it.

You're barely even good enough to kill our worst players.

Im not sure what skill has to do with knowing how to admin a server.

Dread didn't know anything until yellow 5 taught him everything he knows. I don't see it as a personal attacks, I see it as facts. It is a fact that dreadful is bad at quake. It is a fact that dreadful let yellow 5 once again take the reins of the quake 1 community (FOR MONEY) and steer us in the wrong direction.

These are pretty much all personal attacks to the both of us. =\

I took a chance, omi. Whether its a good one or not, I don't know. But I don't see it as a bad one, because the only players that bitch about his adminship or settings on the server, are trouble causing players such as yourself, and others who don't get their way. And usually when someone has a problem with a setting or abuse from an admin they come to me and ask or tell me about it and maybe a kind discussion takes place, the issue gets resolved.
You've never taken a chance?

Whenever you have an issue, the first thing you do is get on the forums write a book on what happened and flame/talk shit about everyone that has anything to do with the moderation of the server.
There are better ways of handling such things. I dont mind you making a thread on the forums, thats what they are here for. But when you talk down to me in ten diferent ways, I don't care to hear shit you have to say.

I'm done with speaknow. Totally sick of this shit. There should be a migration to this server.

I hope not to see you there. I'm not gonna admin abuse you if you get on. But remember that you aren't welcomed there.


In my personal opinion its not a server's settings or the admin abuse towards you on that particular server that would piss people off and make them not want to play, but rather your mouth and the way you shit talk everybody in the community. You get on a server and shit talk and piss on newbs until they leave. Because they aren't as good as you... In your mind nobody is as good as you. OH! THATS why you're shit talking everyone.
I'm not trying to speak for everyone when I say this. But you're no good here. Maybe its about time you moved on.


You're officially on my ignore list.

[MDerteau]

I downloaded the CAx mod from the link you provided, and I uploaded the mod into a folder titled CAx. I also had them use the wqpro395.exe for anti-wallhack. They had the server running with the wqpro395.exe on some runes mod. When I had them switch the command line over to the CAx folder we couldnt get the server to run. Could anybody please help? Do I have the newest version of the mod? Do I need it? I wrote Rook about a version with an updated MOTD fit for this server, but Ive gotten no response after 3 days.
Any help is good help.

[Zop]

What is your command line to start the server? (such as -game cax and such)

[MDerteau]

They have a "command line changer" feature, but im not too sure of how to work it. Here are the command lines:
-dedicated 12 -game CAx -heapsize 32000 -iplog -ip 66.165.90.34 -port 26000 -condebug -Zone 1024

It also has a second line that says this:
+set deathmatch 1 +set ip 66.165.90.34 +set dedicated 1

[Baker]

They have a "command line changer" feature, but im not too sure of how to work it. Here are the command lines:
-dedicated 12 -game CAx -heapsize 32000 -iplog -ip 66.165.90.34 -port 26000 -condebug -Zone 1024

It also has a second line that says this:
+set deathmatch 1 +set ip 66.165.90.34 +set dedicated 1

I'd try this as the command line.

wqpro395.exe -game cax -dedicated 12 - ip 66.165.90.34 -udpport 26000 -port 26000 -zone 1024 -condebug qconsole%d -heapsize 32000

Make sure you have the following file structure:

1. quake - wqp395.exe
2. quake\id1 - pak0.pak pak1.pak (Quake data files)
3. quake\id1\maps - should contain the maps (CAx maps)
4. quake\cax - should contain CAx progs.dat and .cfg files

Btw the way, I don't know what that 2nd command line is, but "set" is not a ProQuake command and you should need those anyway, the mod .cfg files set that.

The reason -condebug qconsole%d is important is because it will create console log files in the quake\CAx folder (also check quake\id1) and if you are having problems, you open the most recent log file to get insight into the issue.

For consistency, I would recommend using wqpro399.exe from ProQuake 3.99s over ProQuake 3.95 as the server because wqpro395.exe is now several revisions old.

[MDerteau]

Sigh, Ive been trying to get this working, I even gave the guy hosting the server a link to the CAx mod download. He installed it, but the server still isnt running. I told him what you said about the command line, and now it looks like this:
-dedicated 12 +set fs_game CAx -heapsize 32000 -iplog -ip 66.165.90.34 -port 26000 -condebug -Zone 1024

I'm not sure he listened. Is there anything in that command line that CAN cause trouble with the server? I'm starting to think there is something wrong with the mod.
Anybody please help!