Tony Stewart hits and kills driver

[wicked_lord]

Now i don't watch much racing but i do however know Tony Stewart is one of the greatest nascar racer's of all time. Now i watched this video over and over and if i were the detective in this case i would be pursuing charges from the State's Attorney's Office and he would be jailed for vehicular homicide of the first degree meaning he deliberately did this. You can clearly see him swerve at the driver who was out of his car and not only did he SWERVE at him he stepped on the gas and you can hear it as well. Take a look for yourself and listen as well. May this driver RIP and may Tony Stewart's stay in prison be a miserable one. <-- That's if the lead detective and SA's office pursues charges which in all account they should because the evidence is clear he hit the guy deliberately.

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EDIT: How in the heck do you make the video appear here instead of just showing a link?

[Dutch]

Make sure the link isn't to a secure https. Just take out the s. Then it should appear.

And yeah they need to nail his ass to the wall.

[wicked_lord]

Make sure the link isn't to a secure https. Just take out the s. Then it should appear.

And yeah they need to nail his ass to the wall.

Thanks.

Yes most certainly nail him to a wall period.

[PrimalLove]

I don't know man. Have you ever raced? As you can see the moving at high speed so reaction time is limited, visibility is difficult when dark and he was wearing all black. Top that off with the fact that he is walking on to the track which is insane and completely unsafe. One car before Stewart barely misses him which causes Stewart to react. The swerve he did makes sense when combined with the first cars reaction. I know this guy and Stewart had a bit of a smash up on the track but that's racing. Please don't get out of your car and start walking on the track. That's dangerous and irresponsible even if you are mad at Stewart. In my mind they made the right call as they evidence doesn't show intent. Also Stewart was in shock over it as anyone who just killed someone would be. It's a tragedy that shouldn't have happened but from what I can see and have read its not Stewart's fault.

[wicked_lord]

I don't know man. Have you ever raced? As you can see the moving at high speed so reaction time is limited, visibility is difficult when dark and he was wearing all black. Top that off with the fact that he is walking on to the track which is insane and completely unsafe. One car before Stewart barely misses him which causes Stewart to react. The swerve he did makes sense when combined with the first cars reaction. I know this guy and Stewart had a bit of a smash up on the track but that's racing. Please don't get out of your car and start walking on the track. That's dangerous and irresponsible even if you are mad at Stewart. In my mind they made the right call as they evidence doesn't show intent. Also Stewart was in shock over it as anyone who just killed someone would be. It's a tragedy that shouldn't have happened but from what I can see and have read its not Stewart's fault.

They haven't made "ANY" calls yet as if any charges will be filed. He MASHED the gas. Not sure if anyone clearly read my post or not but why would you swerve AT, not AWAY from the driver on the track and then step on the gas. NOW don't get me wrong stewart may have been trying to spray him with some dirt from the rear tires and that is why he did it. Yes i raced go-karts in the past on dirt tracks and it is very dangerous to get out and walk on the track but the track is lit up and not being able to see is pretty much an excuse if you are looking straight ahead. That place is pretty well lit compared to what you see in the video.

[RL Clown]

why would you swerve AT, not AWAY from the driver on the track and then step on the gas.

You bring up a very good point... It looks intentional! I hope that there's a careful investigation in this case and I hope that justice comes into effect. Seriously, I never thought that something like this would happen on a race track. This is not outrageous, this is very outrageous!

[damage_inc]

Actually, the MAIN thing the "evidence" suggests is that if you are a Sprint car racer and you get out of your car during the race "challenging" another driver in their car with your body, you have the very real possibility of dying!

Other than that, this video does not conclusively show "vehicular homicide"

[wicked_lord]

Actually, the MAIN thing the "evidence" suggests is that if you are a Sprint car racer and you get out of your car during the race "challenging" another driver in their car with your body, you have the very real possibility of dying!

Other than that, this video does not conclusively show "vehicular homicide"

At this point the DA (District Attorney) is looking at evidence as the Sheriff's department has decided to turn any and all evidence over to the DA.

Basically if there was INTENT which at this point there probably was no intent of wrong doing i think there may be a civil suit in the making. Only time will tell.

[damage_inc]

Don't where you got the DA looking into it info but I seen this: Sheriff says no criminal charges will be filed against Tony Stewart | FOX Sports

[wicked_lord]

Must be a newly updated article. Been hours since ive looked at it.. The Sheriff stated earlier on "TV news" that they were handing over all evidence to the DA for further investigation. I seen it on TV. If they decided not by now then it is what it is.

[PrimalLove]

They haven't made "ANY" calls yet as if any charges will be filed. He MASHED the gas. Not sure if anyone clearly read my post or not but why would you swerve AT, not AWAY from the driver on the track and then step on the gas. NOW don't get me wrong stewart may have been trying to spray him with some dirt from the rear tires and that is why he did it. Yes i raced go-karts in the past on dirt tracks and it is very dangerous to get out and walk on the track but the track is lit up and not being able to see is pretty much an excuse if you are looking straight ahead. That place is pretty well lit compared to what you see in the video.

I sort of explained this in our game discussion. He swerved because the driver in front of him served to miss the racer. In turn Stewart also reacted. The use of the gas had nothing to do necessarily with direction of intent and more to do with regaining control. I have a bit of experience in racing (tho not much) and this is a textbook recovery maneuver. It's not at all clear from the video if he even knew the guy was out on the track at all. It's more likely, tho not conclusive that he was simply reacting to the driver in front of him and acted in a way to regain control after making a sudden swerve. See how they haven't decide as of now to pursue charges I think, unless some other evidence comes to light, that this was just a tragic accident. But either way the lack of evidence leaves it on the fence for me because i'd need more information. I trust their decisions so far based on the video and information provided in a few articles. As to whether it was well lit or not, actually too much lighting can be just as blinding to a driver than anything else. Lights at night exacerbate this problem greatly so even if it is better lit than the video portrays I still don't know if that really works in favor of his guilt given that it's extremely reckless and dangerous to exit your car (which wasn't damaged enough to warrant a safety concern) and walking on to the track to confront someone you think (rightly or wrongly) used unsportsmanlike conduct and you want to confront him DURING a race instead of waiting for a much safer, appropriate time.

Don't misunderstand, this is a tragedy that shouldn't have happened and my sympathies go out to the family of the victim. But looking at the available evidence doesn't seem to show intent on Stewart's part. Stewart himself was apparently (from witness accounts) very shaken up by it. That doesn't prove anything either but just something to note.

[R00k]

okay, here's my take on only what ive seen from the original post.

young driver was prolly talking smack before/during the race.
tony gets tired of his bull.... and nudges him into the rail rendering him out of the race.
young driver jumps out of his car in the heat of rage
confronts on-coming traffic to share a piece of his mind.

tony sees this fool, thinks damn punk move.
tony decides to teach him a lesson and bump him (again)... prolly just to scare him..

BUT


tony accidentally hits him, pulls him under...

so i guess its whatever they call it for accidental death, but still your fault.

imho

very sad, i hope he didnt suffer to long before his death.

[Cobalt]

It was intentional....he caused him to spin out in the first place. No coincidence he happens to be the same guy who hits him too. What happens if a driver hits something and flys out of the vehicle and lands on the track? I guess they just run over the bodies now.

A true professional to the trade would have found a way not to hit a pedestrian, even if he or she put themselves into the danger on their own. A professional is the bigger person who has the brains.

[Dutch]

Guilty or not...getting out out of your car and walking across a race track is stupid as hell.

[damage_inc]

Looks like the dude(Ward Jr.) tried to jump on the car!!! Super SloMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XvhrPu64Co - He's hanging from the wing

And Cobalt, go all EMO much.