Should Marijuana Be Totally Legal: USA

[Frenzy]

What are your thoughts? Will it help the economy?

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Don't ask OoPpEe, he'll tell it to you straight. *puffpuffpass*

Of course it should be legalized,and of course it would inject a huuuuuuuge amount of money into our economy. Who's gonna make it happen? Ron Paul.

[Cobalt]

My mom caught lung cancer from living with smokers most her life. I was with her the day it worsened when they let smokers and other lowlifes on meth and stuff move in the apartment below her. When I see people smoking , I purposefully walk away and avoid their perimiter. They are walking biohazard zones, and if anyone forces me to stay close to one of those sick people, Id kill them....no guilt whatsoever just like a zombie in quake to me.

[R00k]

Cigarettes are different from Marijuana. Cigs have 100+ chemicals added to them. Vaporizers for instance have no smoke.
More people die from cigs and alcohol related events than weed. Weed was legal upto 1930s then prohibition was lifted and the coin was flipped. Ron Paul says to leave it up to each state to decide the legality.

[nahuel]

I live in Argentina, in South America. and I do not know USA (or its culture or its people). But I know in the U.S. have strong anti-drug policies. And interestingly is a country with much per capita consumption. So I think there is big money behind this consumption. Many drug dealers and politicians are engaged in the business. that happening all over the world. and strictly speaking of marijuana i say that the legalization (and allow the personal cultivation) would be the best way of course. but I think it is still far for that country. I recommend the book by Jack Herer "The Emperor Wears No clothes"

[Cobalt]

Thats like saying murder is worse than suicide. A drug is a drug, it effects the centers of reason and judgement in the human brain, alcohol is not a food, its classified in chemical class as a solvent....take it another step further into reality, and its poison, to be brief. Fact that my mothers health was stable and pretty good for an 80 year old, until all the potheads and druggies moved in is proof it leads to death. Id rather seen her met her death on her terms, rather than be denied clean air to breath, suffocate in her own apartment because someone else decides they want to pollute the air and draw attention to themselves at other expense. If you ask me , they know its bad for them , and people around them, they just want to terrorize people and get off on it.

Cigarettes are different from Marijuana. Cigs have 100+ chemicals added to them. Vaporizers for instance have no smoke.
More people die from cigs and alcohol related events than weed. Weed was legal upto 1930s then prohibition was lifted and the coin was flipped. Ron Paul says to leave it up to each state to decide the legality.

[Frenzy]

Fact that my mothers health was stable and pretty good for an 80 year old, until all the potheads and druggies moved in is proof it leads to death.

How do you prove, on any grounds, that your mother died as a result of OTHER people's use? I do not mean to be harsh, but you're standing on no ground with this statement.

I actually guarantee you, with 99.9% confidence that your Mother(God Bless Her) did not get cancer from the "potheads and druggies" who lived below. Statements like this are just crazy!

I've heard or read no proof of cancer from Marijuana myself. I shall look into this.

[Cobalt]

Not that I am surprised these kind of accusations come from someone like you, who smoke pot, and its effected your brain to the point that you actually have the nerve (or just plain stupidity) to tell me that YOU know better how my own mother died, as if you are her son, not me...? Yea, my mother was your dads whore, is the message I guess you are sending? I would actually feel sorry for you if you didnt take yourself so seriously, and to also say that this kind of mentality gonna generate jobs and restore the economy? I have not even had the time to deal with the grief that came from the pointless death of my mother , but I can tell you , I have alot of anger about it though years have passed, and I use to have no problem taking it out people like you , who I see are a big part of the problem, but at the same time I know its a sickness, and the more I fought people like you, the more your ego would get inflated.

How do you prove, on any grounds, that your mother died as a result of OTHER people's use? I do not mean to be harsh, but you're standing on no ground with this statement.

I actually guarantee you, with 99.9% confidence that your Mother(God Bless Her) did not get cancer from the "potheads and druggies" who lived below. Statements like this are just crazy!

I've heard or read no proof of cancer from Marijuana myself. I shall look into this.

[nahuel]

@ Cobalt, I understand from near what it is cancer. My father died of cancer when i was only a child (he was only 45 years), but in my house, nobody smoked cigarettes or used other drugs. Probably one of the causes of the disease (specifically stomach cancer) has been the work environment in a textile factory in which many hazardous chemicals are handled. Cancer is a really painful sickness, and I understand perfectly the pain, but try not to argue with Frenzy hard charging that his brain affected by marijuana leaves not see the truth. I know many people who do not consume any drugs and they are really "dumb" or highly structured and can not see the truth of things. And it is certainly true that secondhand smoke can get cancer, and this is likely the cause of the illness of your mother.How can know it? How Frenzy know it? i do not know anyone here in this forum and my English is crap anyway, but do not get anywhere with this kind of discussion. The personal experiences are intransferable in all aspects. Have a good day.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

This isn't a debate on whether its healthy or not. The question is , should uncle sam take potheads money. I say the answer is yes,and it needs to be just like cigarettes. You got your cheap ass brands/labels and your high end brands/labels.

Currently nearly all money involving or directly relating to the purchase of marijuana are untaxed,probably funding cartel desires to grow/ship to the USA. My local newspaper always has something like this in it.

Mississippi marijuana bust finds 7,000 pounds, $7 million worth of pot | WJLA.com

If it isn't 7,000 pounds its fn 400pounds !!!! The point is, I'm sure our debt would crumble if we started doing things right.
Tell me Uncle Sam don't need that 7 Million, or the other countless other shipments of blackmarket DRIVEN marijuana to CASH turnover.

Keep in mind, that legalizing/selling/taxing also cuts back on legal proceedings costs or courts/paperwork/feeding people 3 squares a day in jail/prison for marijuana related offenses.

[Cobalt]

Yea, thanks for sharing that. Reminded me of how NY state was the first state to Tax cigarettes, yea, I live in NY - the vampire state btw. Heres a great story to share about how taxing unhealthy behaviour is good for everyone.

Heres how that helped my mom - she was on section 8 because of all the years of being exposed to my fathers drinking and abuse, who also smoked cigarettes. I bet she probably had some kind of mild lung infection before her condition escalated, but she was away from my dads smoking since he died in 1991. So she had 15 years of life without any signs of lung cancer before she died. Morons in the healthcare profession created fancy terms for some kind of new virus as the cause of death, but the guy who smoked downstairs who escalated the problem had TB...which btw, is a smokers disease. Other morons who lived in the apartment building fought back and fourth with each other with smoking pot, and cooking meth. Now if that dont make an 80 yr old person sick, nothing will. I lived with her for 8 years of the 15 year period, and this wonderul activity al happened in about the last 2-3 years , and the only reason I am alive is that I saw it al coming way ahead of time, and rented motel rooms just to get some fresh air when I could. Trying to tell NY state this was their problem was a joke, because guess where the druggies and losers were getting all their money to buy this crap? You guessed it, NY state section 8 welfare and the other idiot who cooked the meth got his from early social security...

Im not realy looking for anyones approvel or disapproval at what I am saying, these are the facts as they happened. I dont expect anything good to happen in this society anynmore , and never will.....and throwing money in the form of a declining US dollar at this kind of problem, only means we ought to all start digging our graves now before someone else does.

This isn't a debate on whether its healthy or not. The question is , should uncle sam take potheads money. I say the answer is yes,and it needs to be just like cigarettes. You got your cheap ass brands/labels and your high end brands/labels.

Currently nearly all money involving or directly relating to the purchase of marijuana are untaxed,probably funding cartel desires to grow/ship to the USA. My local newspaper always has something like this in it.

Mississippi marijuana bust finds 7,000 pounds, $7 million worth of pot | WJLA.com

If it isn't 7,000 pounds its fn 400pounds !!!! The point is, I'm sure our debt would crumble if we started doing things right.
Tell me Uncle Sam don't need that 7 Million, or the other countless other shipments of blackmarket DRIVEN marijuana to CASH turnover.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

You have yet to weigh in on the MONETARY situation, though which is odd.

I realize that you are hold a strong opinion on the USE of drugs, that has become very apparent. But we aren't discussing personal family loss or experiences or hardships, we're discussing 1 thing. Legality....

I found this image on google, for you Cobalt.
You'd probably enjoy life more if you made love to a Volcano.

[grave_digga]

Drugs shouldn't be legal in any country. If they legalize it there will be much more problems with the potheads then they already have.

[Frenzy]

Whether you want to take it out on me or not, I'm not the reason your Mother died, nor did I disrespect her, nor you. I simply stated a fact. It's not an argument, but due to the fact that you're still bitter about the death (and who wouldn't be), you choose to make it as an excuse to be hostile. You're excuse is invalid to me in this conversation, and if you so choose to be a child and run with that, then so be it. But I don't tend to argue with children

Yes Mindz! I think it would obviously kill our debt in immense amounts! And grave_digga, there's many medicinal uses to the drug. And they don't really have many problems with the "potheads", it's the crack, cocaine, heroine, X, etc....

[Spoon]

Cobalt, murder is worse than suicide. And you're clearly too emotionally invested to provide an objective argument. Sorry for your loss.