CTF Tourney

[Mindf!3ldzX]

updated website with last night's match. muller is now on smokey and lerster's team and it is a round robin. Play every team once!

Ill upload stats tomorrow

can you elaborate on round robin.

[R00k]

Here's the transcript and the stats for our matches
scroll to the bottom for the stats
match.txt

[rambo]

Ok so I am out officially now?

[Frenzy]

The tournament isn't going well for various reasons.

Now you're converting the tournament? haha, I'm laughing at the way this is going, but will continue to play. Decide who the officials are, and put them on the website, then THOSE officials can DECIDE what's going on.

We got 10 people trying to come up with rules and times, and you don't run a tournament like this.

Get the shit together.

[monoz]

I am the official. If people don't like that, then don't play in the tournament. The CTF Revival Tourney was fine without all this mess.

I said 8:00 est for sunday's games. Frenzy, you told people the wrong time and screwed it up. The tournament is going fine... when was the last time you have seen 12-16 people on a server. That is the whole point of the tournament anways. To start people playing again.

No one else should be telling people times. GAMES ARE SUNDAY 8:00 pm EST. If teams decide on a different time (like vis' game) that is fine. I have not changed the rules at all. The only difference is that it is now a round robin since rambo quit and bosh has no interest in playing.

vis. we can count your game, but I didnt have all the demos. napalm sent me one demo but I did not see a second match (only ctf3m2).

[cd57]

Frenzy, sometimes you have to adjust for unexpected situations. I believe the round robin format works better for multiple week tournaments. If we were doing this in one day, the bracket style would work. The problem with the bracket style is, if a game gets postponed, it can hold up the entire tournament. Adjusting it to round robin allows every team to play each other, which is a better way of determining the winner (not that it's a big deal).

We need to figure out whether we are dissolving muller's team. Rambo wants back in and I say we bring him back in. He's reliable and a good player, just a tad emotional. Rambo, please no more quitting. Just like muller said, if you're back in, no more quitting. Is team rage having a problem with getting a hold of jbone? If not, maybe we can salvage team ragequit. We still need a replacement for bsh, though.

[rambo]

can i please not be team rage quit hahaha.

[Frenzy]

You are the official? As in you are the only one allowed to officiate games? And me putting central instead of est didn't mess it up. People not showing up on time messed it up previously. There's 25 pages of people deciding things and this tournament isn't running that great.

So rules are made on the fly by you, Monoxide?

Rules such as, if teamA picks the server, then teamB gets the map choice?
And if teamB gets map choice, Who gets to pick the color? etc.

You can't run something making rules on the fly.

And if I posted the wrong time, as the official, why did you not just simply shoot me a message and tell me to change it? Simple resolve.

[Rampage]

Chad.. I originally asked you to post the news on the home page (not mono).. I then pm'd you a few days prior to Sunday to change the time to Eastern.. you were still active on the forums but didn't respond / nor change the time to Eastern..

It did mess things up because guys like Jbone showed up at 8 and then left and never came back because no one was there.. Quicky thought our match was at 9:30 Est instead of 8.. there was a lot of confusion going on.. not just on your end but with everyone.. so you are right on that part


Anyhow.. there is no need for politics.. Rambo is back in, the teams are the same and I think the ONLY move we should make is flip Jbone and Armorattak.. meaning Muller would have Armorattak/Rambo instead of Jbone/Rambo.. we switch to round robin format, all matches at 8:00 pm on Sunday (we have two servers)..

[cd57]

Frenzy, I dont think anyone has a problem with adjusting the rules on the fly. Someone has to make a decision when there is uncertainty. There's no reason to stir up drama here. All that's going to do is cause problems and possibly ruin a tourney that given the current circumstances, is running decent.

[rambo]

Ok I am happy I'm back in, im going to do my best to hold my emotions in and just have fun. I again make a notion for a more concrete schedule, I cannot be the only one that likes finding out the night of that some players will not be on till later.

*also Mrs. Mindz, you doing some spying for your husband? =)

[gothiccandy]

Not trying to step on anyone toes but... too many Chiefs and not enough Indians once a list of players is made 1 person should be the one to find out when everyone can play, and include all the factors including time zone,work and family responsibly's, ect.. I'm sure more people would want to play if more circumstances were addressed. Newer players might give it more of a chance to if there were a tourney for them as well, it's not really much different than making a work schedule . Some people think of a task like that as a puzzle and can be fun..

[Disco]

All arguments aside, i think things are getting better.




I would like to ask some clarification on the Tie Breaker Map. The reason i ask is because we had an issue with the TB decision during our match. I do think Red Alert is a good TB map but i didnt like it last night vs Ramp The only reason i said no to it last night is because they shot down our choice of CTF5 so we nullified the whole thing by shooting down what they picked and had Mono pick the TB. If we would have had a TB in place already it could have changed the tide of our match. Ramps team could have just as easily won on a diff map.


1) I dont think the TB should be decided on by either team.

2) It should be determined right now on these boards so it never comes down to a game time decision.

3) Obv it needs to be a symmetrical CTF map only. Not an ID map or CTF2M8 because of the bases being stacked and gravity helps the bottom base.

4) We need to have 2 TB maps picked. 1 Primary 2 Backup. This way the TB map is not a map that is already picked to be played by both teams. I dont think the TB map should be a map that one of the teams had already chosen to play.

[gothiccandy]

Ok I am happy I'm back in, im going to do my best to hold my emotions in and just have fun. I again make a notion for a more concrete schedule, I cannot be the only one that likes finding out the night of that some players will not be on till later.

*also Mrs. Mindz, you doing some spying for your husband? =)

I agree with what you were saying about all the last min changes, and no, I give you my word. There are some games I've played against my hubby, Love him as I do I am willing to shoot at him just as much as you.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

I tried mentioning whorezone (based on symmetry). But then again, its not like theres been much of a say-so availible in this tournament. It's pretty much do as your told, and so far all this jibba jabba just makes me want to puke.