CTF Tourney

[Rampage]

Why are they not being allowed to rematch (vis vs muller)? ..It was a 2v2 (not a 3v3), and there is no full demo/stats of the match.

[Frenzy]

Why are they not being allowed to rematch (vis vs muller)? ..It was a 2v2 (not a 3v3), and there is no full demo/stats of the match.

I actually have both full demos and stats.. as far as I knew they had agreed the game was kosher? If not our team doesn't mind replaying it, everybody just said hell with it lets play it so its over with.

[rambo]

i thought we were going to do it over?

[monoz]

If you guys want to replay it, replay it.

[rambo]

I do for obvious reasons...and I thought everyone agreed to it. But Frenzy sounds like he's ready to take last weeks debacle, count it as permanent, and move on to his next match. I thought it was known that we were going to re-do...now it does not seem as concrete.

[monoz]

If everyone has agreed to it, it must be replayed

[Frenzy]

I do for obvious reasons...and I thought everyone agreed to it. But Frenzy sounds like he's ready to take last weeks debacle, count it as permanent, and move on to his next match. I thought it was known that we were going to re-do...now it does not seem as concrete.

Rambo, I just said in my last post clearly that our team wouldn't mind replaying it. The issue with you begging for a replay is obvious, you sat around and screwed your team over after agreeing to a 2-2. You say you were to drunk to try, but in certain cases you'd be walking around shooting, then you'd be grappling just like the normal Rambo. You were aware of what was going on - you just were being the same stubborn emotional Rambo. And for that reason is why I feel the game should be counted. However, for the 3rd time, I say, our team doesn't mind a replay. I just don't think you deserve one.

(I already know you're gonna say "well I was there on time and then I went and got drunk!")

Well our team was on time for 2 weeks in a row and your team wasn't around.

[rambo]

im not begging asshole. see you do start so much shit frenzy. now you trying to tell me i was faking being drunk. your team on time for 2 weeks, what a fucking joke. guy you must be smoking some real good shit. there was 2 scheduled matches, first one had no scheduled start time. aaa (your team) had to go to bed/jbone(my team) couldnt be on till later. Second match your team wasnt there for 8pmest, (you alledge there was no time set/but it was strewn throughout the forums which you read 20+ times a day and i know you got contact with your entire team), so i did proceed to party with my company..The supposed other matches that my team was not there for were NOT scheduled at all, they were thrown together during the week. Mostly I was the one missing from them because I was in bed and was not aware to the fact everyone was playing, so dont pull that bullshit.

So chad..frenzy..i do consider you a friend. But dont mistake that for weakness dude. Yeah I do get emotional at times, ive apologized and stated that I would try to hold that in. I thought we were past that fact but you want to re-hash that. ITS OVER...let it go. Notice the only negative things in my post were calling you a asshole for saying I was begging, you must be really high, and dont pull bullshit.

What im getting at is I can go back and forth with you all day, facts is facts though. I've apologized for my transgressions, when are you going to do the same? You take everyones post so negative and flip it on them 200%, why do you like drama. Notice in my posts mono responded I used the word thought, so I guess if you want to count the vis/frenzy beatdown of muller (cause mentally I was not there that night) then so be it. You've said you'd re-do it so then lets re-do it. Why does there have to be drama surrounded around it. Now your also coming out saying I don;t deserve it, when literally tuesday & wednesday I pm'd you about admin and you mentioned no problem with me. I find that awfully funny.

Basically this is my public plea with you, make up your mind. Im done with the drama and I wrote this lenghty post to clear up anything on my end you may have mis-understood.

[Rampage]

Everyone is trying to make this thing work.

Quake is an ancient game, and finding the resources (time, people, etc) to make this tournament work is not an easy task.

The problem long predates this thread, every time a tournament has been strewn together people are hell bent to have it 'their way'; that is wherein lies the problem. We're trying to make suggestions to appeal to the betterment of the tournament and oil the machine.

There have been certain parties here that don't seem too interested in the common interest of making this succeed and having the majority agree on what is best for this tournament.

Please, stop the he said she said bullshit, let's move on.

It is simple:

1. Play on Sundays at 8 Est
2. Record demos/keep stats/update the website
3. Listen to what everyone has to say and weigh the suggestions instead of throwing them aside because you want it "your way" (this is the egoistic approach which is cancerous to the community at this point) so we can improve the quality of games and hopefully continue this further down the line.

Mono, if you're going to organize this tournament, it is also your duty to answer questions and concerns of the people who wish to participate in it.

I've seen multiple posts here go unaddressed, for example Lun asking if it is okay for Armor to sub for him if he's late to a match.

[rambo]

Side Note: Would it be possible to have a proxy connected to server during match for spectators? I thought we used to have something like that. Where there was a proxy where up to 100 people could watch that way there isnt mass confusion directly on the server.

[R00k]

faqproxy.

I'm not sure, maybe FTE can be used for QuakeTV and netQuake?

[Frenzy]

Rambo your post is duly noted. However I never said you were faking being drunk. We'll have to setup our rematch aside from this Sunday's scheduled matches though, as I'd rather not interfere with what's going on and scheduled, that cool? Perhaps we could just do it right after Sunday's match while everybody is still around, play 2 back to back

Rampage you're right.

And Polarite knows how to setup a proxy for observers, we should ask him? Or R00k do you know how to setup the FAQproxy

[metchsteekle]

faqproxy.

I'm not sure, maybe FTE can be used for QuakeTV and netQuake?

yes it can, I've used it once or twice on servers

[rambo]

Rambo your post is duly noted. However I never said you were faking being drunk. We'll have to setup our rematch aside from this Sunday's scheduled matches though, as I'd rather not interfere with what's going on and scheduled, that cool? Perhaps we could just do it right after Sunday's match while everybody is still around, play 2 back to back

Rampage you're right.

And Polarite knows how to setup a proxy for observers, we should ask him? Or R00k do you know how to setup the FAQproxy

We cool

[R00k]

yes it can, I've used it once or twice on servers

oh nice i'll have to do some research on that as with QTV/FTE you can just watch it through a web browser.

Frenzy: I downloaded FAQProxy today and it still works, even windows 7!
Basically the way it works is one loads up the proxy, then loads up their quake client, connect 192.168.1.100 to connect to the proxy then use "say proxy: connect yayowave.quakeone.com" and the proxy connects to the server with your client bridging a connection. Then anyone else up to i guess 30+ people can connect to your ip address and then see what you are seeing from the server. This wont lag the server any but it will increase your own outbound packets to each connected OBSERVER to your machine. I have a 15Mb/s line so im sure I can handle at least 16 observers, heck maybe more!