TU beats SNS 3-2

[foq]

I wasnt causeing trouble. All is said was that you guys were probally makeing Runescape feel like shit.
As for the actual match, it made me very happy to finally beat our arch-nemesises, SNS. You played well and had me thinking we were going to lose again, but i guess not :/
And fuzznut, nearly every match I played in we lost, which was the same for TU vs KP, so dont go telling me im a hero :{

[Baker]

It is true Baker, no offense, I was there, and you can get the logs if you want.

Here is the log for either port 26001 or port 26003 from Rook:

http://www.quakeone.com/qrack/qconsole6.log

This log is worthless and apparently not the port we played on. I've asked Rook to give us the other one.

I personally don't remember what others said, you may be right. I only remember what I said and I know I would never insult someone in my clan (one hard rule in my prior clan, ESX, was that you are to never insult in your clan).

The discussions on the server between SNS and TU have always been tense and emotionally charged and full of lively discussion.

In all fairness however, neither of us had signed up on the roster, knowing full well the match was posted. I was offered to play and that was NO PROB when you were afk, and when I declined, rune was told no straightout.

Things are chaotic when these things come up within 3 minutes of when we are supposed to play. TU was pressuring us, we were expecting and depending on Bryant to show and he was late.

No one is perfect and with 8 people talking on the server it is very difficult to discuss things and coordinate things.

He almost did get a chance to play several times from what I recall. Nothing wrong with trying to keep the teams even / fair and the best guys in, thats just plain ol good competition. Too bad you guys choked with a 2-0 lead! hehe JK

There will be more matches and I think both SNS and TU want to have some sort of rule instituted to get everyone in. I've brought that up in other threads and maybe this time we can figure out a way to ensure everyone gets to play.

Anyways, its in the past now

This 4th match was no where near as much of a mess as the first 2 SNS/TU matches were, with arguing and debating rules on the server.

These things are evolving!

[Baker]

I wasnt causeing trouble. All is said was that you guys were probally makeing Runescape feel like shit.

That was causing trouble. I told Rune something to the effect of that "Sorry, Rune but we have to have Bryant in for the tiebreaker."

Your interpretation and commentary was NOT welcome. You aren't in SNS, you weren't in the conversation, you didn't have any business talking (re: Spooker's STFU rule for the match)

[foq]

Well if you dont want to let runescape play that's your business. That, however, does not change the fact that he showed up for nothing and the fact that you did'nt let him play probally made him feel like shit.
/I have nothing further to say about this

[Solecord]

Well if you dont want to let runescape play that's your business. That, however, does not change the fact that he showed up for nothing and the fact that you did'nt let him play probally made him feel like shit.
/I have nothing further to say about this

Well then that goes back to the "Sign up for the match on the SNS website" rule. Only 4 signed up. Neither Destroyer or Runescape signed up. As far as insulting goes, I never once saw any insulting remarks said. As Baker stated, the only comments ever made were "No you're out, Bryant is in" type comments. If he took that as insulting then there's nothing anyone can do about it. That was the extent of the comments made towards Runescape.

Also, as Baker mentioned in the other thread, we're planning a Runequake match with TU. I'm sure Phenom will post more about it when the match is set, but BE SURE to SIGN UP for the match. I'm sure they'll work out a rotating system for future matches.

[QuadRaptor]

Might as well point it out, but I spoke with Rune and he said it was really Phenom that said what was, to Rune, insulting.

[spooker]

FOQ-A, Spooker and Frenzy were causing problems by telling us who we had to play for SNS, which was a crock and otherwise lobbying for skill mismatches the whole night (it started with the Bryant isn't in SNS thing on the server, later followed by lobbying for a 3 on 3, an trying to tell us who was playing for SNS and not).

Ah yes the usual load of horseshit from baker. we never pressured you to put rune in. Someone might have pointed out that it was inhumane of you not to put Runescape in; which it was. This does not amount to pressuring you to put him in. I negotiated a point very clearly with Phenom:
"5. The clan leaders will decide in the match who will play"
This means it is none of the other clans business who plays, as long as they are on the roster at the time the match is organized. This is a good rule and should stand for future matches. I make it a policy to play every member who shows up and wants to play, but that is just us and we would never pressure you to play or not play a certain member. This match went so smoothly (even despite 2 server crashes) because Phenom and I spent half an hour negotiating the rules. There was some poor sportsmanship by FOQ and Bryant; FOQ violated the STFU rule too much in general, but Bryant was really bitching hard (OMG YOU CAMP; GAY; WTF; etc...) so I think Bryant's behavior was worse than FOQ's. I wasn't going to bring it up, but since you did Baker i thought i should mention it.

And last of all, I will remind everyone yet again that this is the first TU-SNS clan match where SNS hasn't surreptitiously put in non-clan members. Every time you SNS brag that "it's 2-1; we're still better", you should remember that.

[Canadian*Sniper]

? I don't recall having subs in the first match between the clans. Refresh my memory. Spooker has been PMSing a lot lately.

[Fuzznut]

QUADBOT OWNZ YOU ALL!!

[spooker]

TU beats SNS 3-2

TU and SNS played another CA match last night on various rage ports--we had trouble with 26001 crashing repeatedly during the first match. We played 4v4 on the following choices of maps: Sanity, DM3, Edge, DM3, DM3. If you add up the rounds, TU won 19 rounds and SNS won 16 rounds. Needless to say, it was a very close match. Sportsmanship was stellar all around except for some outbursts from FOQ and Bryant, but nothing too problematic; on the whole, the match went without a hitch, even despite the server crashes! Thanks for the match SNS, GGs and we're looking forward to the next one!

Here's a zip with demos and screenshots from the match:
Download TUvsSNS.zip

[QuadRaptor]

Nevermind, at first it didn't look like a whole lot but then they get seperated into demos by person.

[Fuzznut]

There should be 6. I forgot to send Spooker the second half of the first round.

[Phenom]

1.We did not use subs in the clan battle.

2. In the second match we used a sub and Tu only wanted to void the match at the end when SNS already won.

3.I'm the leader of SNS. I did not "choose" who got to play. I put 4 people up on the SNS battle roster and thats all the signups I knowingly recieved proir to the clan battle.

Spooker:

I make it a policy to play every member who shows up and wants to play

this contridicts the rules about members MUST sign up if they want to be a part of the battle. I've never seen functional from chaos and random spontanious entries.


AND LAST OF ALL, it is SNS 2 Tu 1, it would have been 3-1 but Tu basically said "no the second clan battle doesn't count." and SNS looked the other way. Don't make me state the obvious reason Tu has "1" and only "1".

[QuadRaptor]

Whine whine whine.

[Phenom]

Q.H.B.T there i stopped whining and made a factual statement!