Dag Def Extreme 3 Released!

[spooker]

we dont even compare our playerbase to q1's! we compare to the bigger games like cs/q3

i had no idea the QW player base was so large; is it? i played it a few times but forgot about it 7 years ago when i got cable and the novelty of team fortress and "OMG YOU CAN DOWNLOAD MODS AND MAPS DIRECTLY FROM THE SERVER" wore off

/just reading from quakeworld.nu stuff:
"NetQuake, how normal Quake is called since the birth of QW"--don't think i've ever called normal quake "netquake"

"Overall QuakeWorld is a much improved version of Quake and has developed to be the standard, even for lan play."--uhhh i dont think so, ive played quake 10 years and havent given a thought to quakeworld for the past 7

[Aquashark]

current stats:
http://www.quakeservers.net/quakeworld

Servers
335
Qizmos
46
Players
100

http://www.quakeservers.net/quake/

Servers
64
Players
23

the majority dictates what is standard

i'm not judging anyone playing (net)Quake, but some (net)Quakers act like QW is some 3rd party hack to Quake that needs to be despised.. *sigh*

but since 85% of (net)Quake servers are in America, you can compare to the QW scene over there.. which is quite sad, since the numbers are pretty low on both sides :/

anyway.. YOU are the community, without YOUR involvement don't expect your favorite Quake flavor to be flooded with new players.. i don't know if internet connections just suck in America or whatnot, but why are there more people playing ZDaemon than Quake?

[Baker]

YOU are the community, without YOUR involvement don't expect your favorite Quake flavor to be flooded with new players

What Aquashark says is true. "You are the community".

.. i don't know if internet connections just suck in America or whatnot, but why are there more people playing ZDaemon than Quake?

Keyboarders can do Doom

[spooker]

the majority dictates what is standard

yes and majority here is NQ

i don't know if internet connections just suck in America or whatnot

internet connections here rock...everyone has cable or dsl, which is why there is no need to play quakeworld. remember we invented the internet

[Spirit]

which is why there is no need to play quakeworld. remember we invented the internet

Yeah. QuakeWorld is soooo technically inferior.

[Baker]

I almost never anything good come from NQ Vs. QW arguments, it is a shame because I think it distracts from how nice a lot of the people are. Aquashark is one of my favorites :d

Yeah. QuakeWorld is soooo technically inferior.

In all fairness, few of the features added to Quakeworld clients make the game any better and seem to me to be things that were added because someone thought it would be cool, rather than because their was a need for it.

At the end of the day, someone playing will be using +attack, the mouse and the keyboard.

[sassa]

this is like some1 is arguing for/agains TeamFortress.. we are all from the same family now lets blame Q3!

OMFG I HATE Q3

[Baker]

this is like some1 is arguing for/agains TeamFortress.. we are all from the same family now lets blame Q3!

OMFG I HATE Q3

Agreed! :d

[Canadian*Sniper]

Team Fortress 2 looks bad ass. I may buy it.

[spooker]

i dont know how u extracted that from what i said. the basic impetus for Quakeworld development was slow netplay, something which is no longer a problem for most in the US but is often a problem elsewhere

[Aquashark]

internet connections here rock...everyone has cable or dsl, which is why there is no need to play quakeworld. remember we invented the internet

nobody plays QW because of its netcode. people play it because of its movement (1 less frame of friction) which makes bunny hopping faster and the game more dynamic. and as a testimony of how appreciated the QW movement is, other games copied or adapted the movement (Q3 CPM, Painkiller, Warsow)..

other than that the differences are so small between NQ and QW that it's pointless to have this discussion anyway.. people tend to stick with what they're used to. for example for a long time there was a Quake3 community split between those who played version 1.17 and those who advanced to 1.27 (and later revisions). now people looking back at that realize how pointless it was..

[Polarite]

I think Pez has done the best movie ever done, but this was not it.

This movie has flaws:

1. The music
2. I've seen 80% of those tricks before (DM4 grenade thru hole, etc.)

I judge a movie by whether or not I watch it multiple times, and whether or not I want to watch the movie again after it is done.

The best movie ever, and it is not even close: DM2 Not So EZ by Pez

http://gamefiles.blueyonder.co.uk/bl..._SO_EZ-pez.rar

And the 2nd best movie ever was the SDA Promo Video By Jozsef (JoeQuake author):

http://www.quakeone.com/index.php?in...ile&file_id=69

This movie had some amazing effects, but the Quaking was boring and the music was annoying ... sorry. I can only watch so many air rocket shots and think it is cool.

Every quake movie who uses AC / DC music ROCKS !

I still think its one off the best qw movie's i have seen.

Cool qw movies :

FDE
FDE2
FDE3 Trailer (very cool one)
DDE
DDE2
DDE3
DM2 Not So EZ
kyu.one
Mortuality
sda_promo
QHlan Video 2

O yea forgot quadmachine_2

[Aquashark]

and don't forget about:
Frags Done Satanic, Frags Done Satanic X & The Boss