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  • #16
    Originally posted by MH View Post
    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. How do we know there's not pink fluffy bears in it? Or giant sticks of candyfloss? Or marshmallow hills? Do you see how dumb that is?

    I'm not looking to pick a fight; you're allowed have an opinion and that's fine. Your opinion of Rage is your own and although I disagree with it I do respect it. But how can you even have an opinion about Doom 4 when you have no idea what Doom 4 is going to be like yet? Every post of yours is "Rage sucked and now Doom 4 is going to suck because Doom 4 is going to be like Rage and Rage sucked even though nobody knows what Doom 4 is going to be like yet and did I mention that Rage sucked". You're doing the very same in the Windows 8 thread, by the way. Do you see how dumb that is?

    I see you spreading hate here about something that nobody even knows about yet. You have no reason whatsoever to hate it because you don't even know what it's going to be like yet. You're clutching at straws and going out of your way to find reasons to hate it. Do you see how dumb that is?

    So - wait until there is more concrete info about it, wait until it's released, wait until you play it. If you don't like it after that I'll respect your opinion. But right now your carry-on is not worthy of respect.
    Yeah it's cool to form an opinion about something that you've tried, but it's factually inaccurate to attack things which you don't know about yet..

    "I know the next Quake game will absolutely 100% suck because the last 3 have absolutely sucked" .. can never beat that kind of argument

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MH View Post
      Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. How do we know there's not pink fluffy bears in it? Or giant sticks of candyfloss? Or marshmallow hills?
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      yes... yes! i definitely want marshmallow hills in it. i like scary games, but sometimes things get way scary for me and in those moments i'd love to have a peacefull safe haven at a foot of a nice pink marshmallow hill. it would be comforting.
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      jakub
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      Travail retextured
      Tronyn in high definiton
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      yss of Pandemonium HD textures
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      • #18
        Thread at doomworld forums with links to more stuff from the game:

        Doomworld Forums - Well would ya lookie what I found...

        And I tend to think most of this is legit.

        I like it, have some respect for the people who put uncounted hours into making this. It is going to rock.
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        • #19
          Can't people on this forum express opinion without being so prone to assumptions and bitchiness anymore? It takes away from what could be good discussions. I for one haven't lost my love of gaming and respect for those who crreate. I don't always enjoy everything created the same as others, but respect is always there. C'mon guys keep it civil like the last post from GB and some others in this thread.

          Regards

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          • #20
            It could be another 3 years before its finished. By then a lot can change.
            O.O - yeah, like all the possibilities of 3D in general. By the time they put out the game it will be obsolete - lol. Their biggest market will be playing hologram games. 3 years is an awful long time to build some worlds and models and plug it all into an engine. Even if they intend to build the engine it shouldn't take 3 years. What are they trying to do - rediscover physics or do they have only one guy building the entire game? lol

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            • #21
              Yes, taking so long to make their games is definitely hurting them. By the time it will be out 5 other companies will have copied everything from every screenshot they released and stolen the general concept, too.

              When the first shots of Rage appeared, everyone was thrilled. Then there were 10 or 20 other postapocalyptic games and by the time Rage came out, people were like "oh, it looks like Borderlands or Fallout 3".

              Same in Doom 3 / ROE: "Oh it has a gravity gun. It is copying Half-Life." When in fact they had the gravity gun around the same time as HL2 or earlier, they just took too long to release it.

              Time does matter. Id are awfully slow, indeed. Their games are really solid and well made, but most players will never notice that the game is technically amazing. It is pearls before swine, they would probably sell more if their games were sloppier, but released more quickly. It works for everyone else :-/
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              • #22
                Some screenshots of models are mostly from 3ds maX etc tools used to make them. Im more interested in the game play. ALL to often devs spent 10000 hours making a marketing plight, and 100 hours on gameplay. sad. Im old school (8bit) gaming where eyecandy just meant more colors. Game play means everything, get'ter done!
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                • #23
                  More images leaked. Mostly models and characters. Posted them here - Leaked Doom 4 Images | QuakeWiki

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MH View Post
                    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. How do we know there's not pink fluffy bears in it? Or giant sticks of candyfloss? Or marshmallow hills? Do you see how dumb that is?
                    Judging by the characters, it's probably going to be like Rage .

                    Originally posted by MH View Post
                    I'm not looking to pick a fight; you're allowed have an opinion and that's fine. Your opinion of Rage is your own and although I disagree with it I do respect it. But how can you even have an opinion about Doom 4 when you have no idea what Doom 4 is going to be like yet? Every post of yours is "Rage sucked and now Doom 4 is going to suck because Doom 4 is going to be like Rage and Rage sucked even though nobody knows what Doom 4 is going to be like yet and did I mention that Rage sucked". You're doing the very same in the Windows 8 thread, by the way. Do you see how dumb that is?
                    I actually got Windows 8 working and I was right, *facepalm*. Windows 8 will be awful, but anyway we're going off-topic. Doom 4 is being developed by the same team as Rage was and Rage had a crappy storyline with blurry megatextures, not to mention the awful ending. Just as things were getting interesting it ended, then there's the repetitiveness.
                    Originally posted by MH View Post
                    I see you spreading hate here about something that nobody even knows about yet. You have no reason whatsoever to hate it because you don't even know what it's going to be like yet. You're clutching at straws and going out of your way to find reasons to hate it. Do you see how dumb that is?
                    I love how you say I have an opinion, then say I spread hate everywhere, classic. I just posted some links so people can see the new shots then I posted an opinion, just like you did. Got a problem with that? I have a reason to hate it. I just said it so many times but you ignore me.
                    Originally posted by MH View Post
                    So - wait until there is more concrete info about it, wait until it's released, wait until you play it. If you don't like it after that I'll respect your opinion. But right now your carry-on is not worthy of respect.
                    Don't be so hypocritical, you're the one who started the argument about my own opinion. Then be even more hypocritical by saying that you respect my opinion then start arguments and say I spread hate everywhere.

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                    • #25
                      It looks a little bit like toys in some of the leaked pics, but i still think this game looks amazing

                      ...not to mention the awful ending. Just as things were getting interesting it ended, then there's the repetitiveness.
                      A game I loved SOCOM Fireteam Bravo got bought by a different company and they RUINED it in this same way. Super linear gameplay (literally pointing in the direction to go but allowing you to walk around in other directions that don't go anywhere), shitty story (They killed a 2 episode MAIN CHARACTER which was also your "tag along" in all the prior games) and it ended so abruptly I thought that there was something I was supposed to click or something to go to the next mission...like "Hey a bunch of people died and we didn't actually do anything ...see you at the bar." - thats really how it ended. I was PISSED. But hey you can always go play the entire exact same game all over again so you can build up medals and unlock a gun.

                      F zipper interactive for ruining my favorite Playstation Title
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Grim Warlock View Post
                        Doom 4 is being developed by the same team as Rage was
                        Actually no. Most of the Rage team was laid off in January; that's common public knowledge. Even before then the majority of Doom 4 work was done by a separate, smaller team; that's also common public knowledge.

                        Your argument and your position are totally based on a false premise.
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                        • #27
                          There's a serious lack of Space Marine in those images.

                          I want to see doomguy revamped. (In a different way then doom 3)

                          I actually kinda want vehicles in this too for some reason.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by MH View Post
                            Actually no. Most of the Rage team was laid off in January; that's common public knowledge. Even before then the majority of Doom 4 work was done by a separate, smaller team; that's also common public knowledge.
                            Link please.
                            Originally posted by MH View Post
                            Your argument and your position are totally based on a false premise.
                            You're the only one arguing with me.
                            Originally posted by Bloodshot View Post
                            There's a serious lack of Space Marine in those images.

                            I want to see doomguy revamped. (In a different way then doom 3)

                            I actually kinda want vehicles in this too for some reason.
                            Yeah, I want to see the Doomguy with the helmet on again!

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                            • #29
                              Whats that?

                              Bethesda Softworks Confirms Members of Rage Development Team Laid Off | PlayStation LifeStyle

                              (edited out the rest of my message)
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Mindf!3ldzX View Post
                                Fair enough, but it still won't change my opinion on the game. I don't trust id anymore, they're all in it for the money now.
                                Originally posted by grave_digga
                                Because most other don't have the nerv anymore to do that my little hatechild. No, i don't want to start up a "fight" with you because i don't waste my time with you anymore.
                                I'm not hateful, I'm not a child either. This post just goes to prove how immature you really are. I don't start farts, just hold grudges. And if I'm correct you're not allowed to name-call.

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