NewDM Armour input

[=peg=]

How about PENT makes you take half damge...or better yet, quarter damage...quad damage's inverse.

hmm sounds intresting

[foq]

Hm... pent = 5GA
seriously though... pent could give 400RA... and that's not really much considering how fast RA goes down. Also make it give you 10 of each ammo type and a shaft, some levels don't have shaft but do have cells??

[Solecord]

Make pent similar to a resist rune, and if you die while having pent, make it drop so someone else can pick it up and continue it's use until it times out.

[Senban]

I'd tone down the protection, green gives 30% cover yellow 60% and red 80%, I don't understand the jump from 30 to 60. Maybe try working with 30/50/60. Or something around there.

[Canadian*Sniper]

I'd tone down the protection, green gives 30% cover yellow 60% and red 80%, I don't understand the jump from 30 to 60. Maybe try working with 30/50/60. Or something around there.

the exact reason why I nerfed the armour in the first place

[PapaSmurf]

isn't green 33%?

[Canadian*Sniper]

isn't green 33%?

Here's a snippet from the progs106 vanilla quake source:

/*
===============================================================================

ARMOR

===============================================================================
*/

void() armor_touch;

void() armor_touch =
{
	local	float	type, value, bit;
	
	if (other.health <= 0)
		return;
	if (other.classname != "player")
		return;

	if (self.classname == "item_armor1")
	{
		[COLOR="Yellow"]type = 0.3;[/COLOR]
		value = 100;
		bit = IT_ARMOR1;
	}
	if (self.classname == "item_armor2")
	{
		[COLOR="Yellow"]type = 0.6;[/COLOR]
		value = 150;
		bit = IT_ARMOR2;
	}
	if (self.classname == "item_armorInv")
	{
		[COLOR="Yellow"]type = 0.8;[/COLOR]
		value = 200;
		bit = IT_ARMOR3;
	}
	if (other.armortype*other.armorvalue >= type*value)
		return;
		
	other.armortype = type;
	other.armorvalue = value;
	other.items = other.items - (other.items & (IT_ARMOR1 | IT_ARMOR2 | IT_ARMOR3)) + bit;

	self.solid = SOLID_NOT;
	self.model = string_null;
	if (deathmatch == 1)
		self.nextthink = time + 20;
	self.think = SUB_regen;

	sprint(other, "You got armor\n");
// armor touch sound
	sound(other, CHAN_ITEM, "items/armor1.wav", 1, ATTN_NORM);
	stuffcmd (other, "bf\n");
	
	activator = other;
	SUB_UseTargets();				// fire all targets / killtargets
};

GA is 30%
YA is 60%
RA is 80%

[PapaSmurf]

Ok, so at 30%, you really only need 43 green armor for every 100 health. People were saying 50 for every 100 health, which would mean 33%. I tried checking this by shooting myself with rockets, but due to rounding errors my conclusions were wrong.

[Canadian*Sniper]

going with papasmurf's pent idea, how about this which doesn't stray too far from the original powerup:

for 30 seconds the player's health has 75% resistance but the player's armour still takes full damage on what it absorbs (just like the normal pent does).

In a sense, it's just like the original pent invuln for 30 seconds but this actually does SOME damage to the player and still wastes his/her armour away. What do you guys think? It's either going to be 75% absorb or 50% absorb. play testing will determine it.

[foq]

I'd rather have
GA 30% (50 GA)
YA 50% (100 YA)
RA 60% (150 RA)
PENT 80% (200 RA)

And have the ability to pick up weaker armor and add to your stronger armor's strength like in Quake II.

[PapaSmurf]

I'd kinda like to avoid implementing Q2 stuff.

[Lardarse]

I got a better idea:

Green: 50GA
Red: 150YA
Pent: 200RA + 5 seconds

Yellow: 50GA + 50 health (so it works like half a megahealth)

[Zop]

I like pent giving a different percent of armor... perhaps 200 of 100% armor.

[RocketGuy]

Meh, that's basically a megahealth x2 that doesn't decay.

[Canadian*Sniper]

Right now I have the pent acting normally as it would in vanilla quake except instead of invulnerability the player health receives 1/4 damage.