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  • #1

    Shaft Jump

    I'm a little conflicted about this. It's awesomely fun and seems like it would create a new way to compete (the rj into a shaft-stall/jump is wicked for faking opponents). But my brain says "this is new, i don't like it."

    Seriously though, it's the complete opposite of the hook, I really like it. I'd like to see others' opinions on it to see if maybe we could make this standard on all servers. I know the decision ultimately rests on those who own the servers, but this deserves some serious consideration.

    Discuss...

    (also, try it before you discuss it, it's on rage.quakeone.com right now)

    ETA: i just realized that it's kind of akward to do a regular shaft fight. As long as your shaft never leaves the other players body, it's fine, but any kind of miss that hits a wall or anything just completely throws off your strafe/movement. Maybe it comes with the bargain of being able to shaft jump, if so, some may say "so be it". I guess we wait and see what the community decides.
    Last edited by rev; 06-07-2009, 10:07 AM.
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    I thought it would be good for a "shaft practice mode" with a few tweaks. Make it not push as long as you are shafting someone, and let it push you back less the further away from a wall you are you are.
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    • #3
      Dread, please input Rage's map cycle into speaknow.. DM3 is thrown out of the rotation.. Quake needs a boost like this

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      • #4
        well fuck...

        it was fun as hell on dm6.. so far only map i tried it with, same night r00k implemented the tweak. Like Rev said, handy as hell for faking opponents, and reverting immediately to a rocket hit, that they dont expect, but in levels with lava, this i think would be a bitch... at least for me, hehe It is very cool, and would take a whole new approach to the game, i will have to re-learn everything i have become accustomed to, i have not tried it in conjunction yet with a grapple hook (which could save me from lava), but whilst i save my self from falling into lava, i would make myself such a target while i hook up to some wall or ceiling...
        ALL in ALL - it is dam'd fun, RQ'ers would trip on it, go on and give it a try RQ'ers. it is odd at first, and pushing away from walls is ANNOYING az hell ! hehe... good fun, thnx r00k or bam, whoever came up with the idea.. and like rev had said " brain dont like it" hehe mine does not either...
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        • #5
          its alright. i just hopped on rage and tried it out... noone else was on though so I don't want to fully comment yet. It seems like it could work though.
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          • #6
            re re

            Originally posted by Phenom View Post
            its alright. i just hopped on rage and tried it out... noone else was on though so I don't want to fully comment yet. It seems like it could work though.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by /)))*StatiC*(((\ View Post
              BE on 2Nite Phenom !
              I'm to busy to actually play Quake consecutively honestly just a few mins here and there, but if i find myself with noone calling me up wanting me to do something, or not out myself doing something i'll see whats up.

              anyway, back to being the most wanted man on earth. ttyl. Yes I am very conceited
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Phenom View Post
                I'm to busy to actually play Quake consecutively honestly just a few mins here and there, but if i find myself with noone calling me up wanting me to do something, or not out myself doing something i'll see whats up.
                anyway, back to being the most wanted man on earth. ttyl. Yes I am very conceited

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                • #9
                  Before anyone gets all upset and goes crazy, this is just something goofy i added to practice mode for shits and grins. It's not something that might even make it into mainstream CA (atleast an admin option if possible). I simply dont want to change the way Quake is played, but this illustrates the possibilities atleast to cure the hey im bored with quake, atm.

                  On the other hand, I was thinking maybe only pushing if you are intentionally pointing at the floor, and maybe having to hold for a sec to power up the lg then releasing will shoot one burst to truely punch like an rj?

                  Again, this is just something for fun to break the cycle of boredom....
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                  • #10
                    i like the intentional part of it, but not the charge or burst ideas. i think the best part of it is its ability to lift you at a moments notice even while you're plummeting to the ground. having to charge it will take away the effect of the rj into a shaft lift. and a burst just doesn't seem quite as impactful as a constant lift.
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                    • #11
                      most weapons irl do have a kick... quake isn't real though
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                      • #12
                        Okay I've adjusted it some more tonight, i reduced the push and gravity/friction wins. Basically it WILL lift u to the sky at pent but it also takes awhile and for like a map like toilet4 u wont get very high. Also like when u shaft someone or a wall, this lower push is easily overtaken by walking forward. At this point the shaft-push is an alternative to RJ but its more of a cushion when going down as a trade for fall damage. I guess you would just have to test it out to see what i mean...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by R00k View Post
                          Before anyone gets all upset and goes crazy, this is just something goofy i added to practice mode for shits and grins. It's not something that might even make it into mainstream CA (atleast an admin option if possible). I simply dont want to change the way Quake is played, but this illustrates the possibilities atleast to cure the hey im bored with quake, atm.

                          On the other hand, I was thinking maybe only pushing if you are intentionally pointing at the floor, and maybe having to hold for a sec to power up the lg then releasing will shoot one burst to truely punch like an rj?

                          Again, this is just something for fun to break the cycle of boredom....
                          r00k, I dont think anyone is bored with gameplay itself, in fact we should do a poll on that..

                          the repetitive map is more boring, when I tried out some of the new maps at Dredd I was shocked we weren't playing them at speak

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                          • #14
                            I wasnt shocked, honestly.
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                            • #15
                              Nice idea r00k.

                              Playing around with this atm - lowered the multiplier to 2.4 though. Seems fun.

                              Someone do the boring gameplay poll plz

                              Another poll I'd be interested in is if the shaft should be nerfed.
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