Steam Powered?

[Mindf!3ldzX]

I run Wii games on Windows. woohoo

[foq]

Gamers shouldn't use Linux. Most game developers use Direct X, which Microsoft maintains an iron-tight grip on, so you'll never see Direct X being used outside of Windows, at least not without some funky emulation. In short, there's very little money to be made from the Linux market when it comes to video games, so it's not going to happen.

You seem to have missed my point. Most games use DX, and you won't get DX running without emulation. It's an inarguable fact that Windows machines are better for gaming than Linux machines (due to things such as DX), thus, gamers shouldn't use Linux.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

OpenGL, anyone??

[foq]

How often does OGL get used compared to DX?

[MH]

Or an xbox.

This. Nowadays it can be argued that gamers shouldn't use Windows either. The majority of games are being produced for consoles, with a PC port often a second-thought. That's neither good nor bad; it's just the phase we're in.

[foq]

It can also be argued that gamers shouldn't use consoles, because they're so inferior compared to their PC counterparts.

[sb306]

A few days ago I was looking for Stalker shadow of chernobyl. Most of what I found were Steam downloads. IMO there is no replacement for having a original retail disc. I still have my original cd of Quake, Quake 2, Unreal, Mech 2 Mercenaries, Kingpin, Half-Life, and a few others I cant think of. With that being said, if someone is happy having a digital copy of their favorite games, thats ok too.(I guess)

As far as a console game, I have a 360 and to be honest I dont use it as much as I would like. I just couldnt see myself keeping up with all the latest computer hardware to play games, after being married with a job and shit. Especially to play most of the shitty games that come out these days, which is probably in part to the consoles, but more importantly the majority of the people who buy consoles. 90% of the reason I have the two computers now were to play Quake, and all the other older 2001 games. But now that I have the newer computer, Im checking out some of the newer pc games that I never got a chance to see.

In the last 3 years, Ive probably bought 12 XB360 games and have been happy with maybe 6 of them. Fallout 3 is single player only, and I really enjoyed that game. Gears of war 1 was alot of fun, multiplayer also(they totally fucked up #2 multiplayer with a ridiculous Halo/console type matchmaking system), Ive liked the Halos SP, never liked Halo MP. And Battlefield Bad Company 1 and 2 MP are alot of fun. Ive never cared for the Call of Duty games.

Ok, Im done.

[foq]

Actually, a decent gaming computer isn't going to be that expensive.
Decent chassis: $30
Decent motherboard: $70
Decent cpu: $50
Decent memory: $80
Decent GPU: $100 (I paid $100 for my GTX260)
Decent PSU: $100
Decent monitor: $100
Speakers/KB/Mouse: $50
Decent HDD: $60

Total cost: $640. Add $80 if you need an OS. These are all taken from new, retail price figures. Advantes? PC games are generally cheaper. PCs can do a shitton of things consoles can't. PCs have native keyboard and mouse support for everything, and controllers can be used with the PC, as easily and cheaply as plugging in a $5 USB device that interfaces with a Playstation controller. PCs have better graphics, faster load times, and games are just better on the PC. I have a copy of Quake 2 for the PC and the PS1, and the PS1 version has added in hallways that serve as a cutoff point for it to load the next part of the map. PCs are upgradable. PCs run everything better.

Typical console cost? $300 for a consle, $300 for a TV, oh shit we're already at $600...

[Phenom]

Actually, a decent gaming computer isn't going to be that expensive.
Decent chassis: $30
Decent motherboard: $70
Decent cpu: $50
Decent memory: $80
Decent GPU: $100 (I paid $100 for my GTX260)
Decent PSU: $100
Decent monitor: $100
Speakers/KB/Mouse: $50
Decent HDD: $60

Total cost: $640. Add $80 if you need an OS. These are all taken from new, retail price figures. Advantes? PC games are generally cheaper. PCs can do a shitton of things consoles can't. PCs have native keyboard and mouse support for everything, and controllers can be used with the PC, as easily and cheaply as plugging in a $5 USB device that interfaces with a Playstation controller. PCs have better graphics, faster load times, and games are just better on the PC. I have a copy of Quake 2 for the PC and the PS1, and the PS1 version has added in hallways that serve as a cutoff point for it to load the next part of the map. PCs are upgradable. PCs run everything better.

Typical console cost? $300 for a consle, $300 for a TV, oh shit we're already at $600...

And knowing is half the battle. GGG III JJJOOOEEE!

[foq]

Now we know!

[golden_boy]

Only Sith think in extremes.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

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gg dx11 the champ

[sb306]

Actually, a decent gaming computer isn't going to be that expensive.
Decent chassis: $30
Decent motherboard: $70
Decent cpu: $50
Decent memory: $80
Decent GPU: $100 (I paid $100 for my GTX260)
Decent PSU: $100
Decent monitor: $100
Speakers/KB/Mouse: $50
Decent HDD: $60

Total cost: $640. Add $80 if you need an OS. These are all taken from new, retail price figures. Advantes? PC games are generally cheaper. PCs can do a shitton of things consoles can't. PCs have native keyboard and mouse support for everything, and controllers can be used with the PC, as easily and cheaply as plugging in a $5 USB device that interfaces with a Playstation controller. PCs have better graphics, faster load times, and games are just better on the PC. I have a copy of Quake 2 for the PC and the PS1, and the PS1 version has added in hallways that serve as a cutoff point for it to load the next part of the map. PCs are upgradable. PCs run everything better.

Typical console cost? $300 for a consle, $300 for a TV, oh shit we're already at $600...

I agree with everything you just said. Pcs have always looked better and ran faster and recently the prices seem to have really came down as compared to the late 90s early 00s. But the console has always been more user friendly. The online system of something like XBOX live makes playing with friends very easy. At this point in my life I just dont have the time and patience to use a PC as my primary gaming system.

But yea, I dont really care for Steam.

[foq]

Only Sith think in extremes.

What extremes?

I agree with everything you just said. Pcs have always looked better and ran faster and recently the prices seem to have really came down as compared to the late 90s early 00s. But the console has always been more user friendly. The online system of something like XBOX live makes playing with friends very easy. At this point in my life I just dont have the time and patience to use a PC as my primary gaming system.

But yea, I dont really care for Steam.

Yeah, I can't argue with consoles being more user friendly.

[sb306]

What extremes?



Yeah, I can't argue with consoles being more user friendly.

Yea, I just realized that I have 2 computers right now for playing older games(Primarily for Quake/Darkplaces). And Ive put alot of time into them. Especially the first one getting the fastest setups that would still run Glide in hardware and run dos apps.

I could never see myself doing that for ANY new games that are out. Good games these days are few and far between. I am planning on getting Starcraft 2 though.