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  • Multiple "maps" from a single BSP?

    How in the hell does Digs load multiple maps from a lone .bsp download? AND do a change level to the same .bsp but loading a "different" level? Seems crazy to me how that works!!! How does the engine know what to do?

    I was playing "The Parallel Worlds"(digs04). I know in the readme he referenced a util called "mapspl" but the site was unavailable to me.

    Anyways, just curious.

    Btw, it's awesome So if you are reading this but haven't heard of it, you should go check it out
    Name's damage_inc, and killing is my business. Don't worry though, it's nothing personal! Oh wait... maybe it is

  • #2
    Thanks for the link, Damage. I'll give it a try later.
    My best guess is that the map is heavily modded from the QuakeC perspective to control how an when you can access the various areas of the map.

    Kind regards

    Monty
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    • #3
      I suspect you could use runes and killtargets to take out the extra start spots or something, or just write some qc to do it a bit more robustly.
      Some Game Thing

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      • #4
        No no no... there's ZERO qc involved. The only thing in the .zip file is the ".bsp" and a readme file! Such a cool idea and implementation. - damage_

        UpDaTe: Mr.Burns... oh yeah, you NEED to play this If you enjoy a great base style map well, I think this might possibly be thee finest I have ever
        played! I freakin' love it. There is one thing though, at a few spots using all the eye candy with DP it does bring my system to it's KNEES! But it's soooo worth it
        Last edited by damage_inc; 02-25-2013, 04:35 PM.
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        • #5
          Thanks Damage. I've got a server to build for a project I'm working on but this is now firmly added to this weekend's agenda and I've already dl'd the 3Mb map (thanks Spirit)

          Update: darn it, it looks like it needs Fitzquake 0.85, Bengt Jardrup's enhanced Glquake, or DarkPlaces in order to play it. I don't suppose you would happen to know if Qrack or EngineX can also play this map? If not, no probs, I'll get dl'ing again

          Kind regards

          Monty
          Mr.Burns
          "Helping to keep this community friendly, helpful, and clean of spammers since 2006"
          WWW: Quake Terminus , QuakeVoid You Tube: QuakeVoid
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          News: JCR's excellent ctsj_jcr map is being ported to OOT

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          • #6
            Yes but not 100% sure I've played the right map/mod... but Qrack is always compatible with everything but not 100% I guess.

            Tell me (someone) ONE map/mod Qrack can't handle hehe

            Originally posted by Mr.Burns View Post
            Thanks Damage. I've got a server to build for a project I'm working on but this is now firmly added to this weekend's agenda and I've already dl'd the 3Mb map (thanks Spirit)

            Update: darn it, it looks like it needs Fitzquake 0.85, Bengt Jardrup's enhanced Glquake, or DarkPlaces in order to play it. I don't suppose you would happen to know if Qrack or EngineX can also play this map? If not, no probs, I'll get dl'ing again

            Kind regards

            Monty

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            • #7
              Mr.Burns, I cranked up "Engine_X_550_hybrid.exe" via "wine" in Linux and it ran fine. I would imagine in it's native environment it will not be a problem, although I don't know.

              Also, I booted into Win7 and tried glQrack but only when I checked compatibility for WinXP SP3 in properties did I get it to run! But it worked fine.

              That's all I got, enjoy,
              - damage_
              Name's damage_inc, and killing is my business. Don't worry though, it's nothing personal! Oh wait... maybe it is

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              • #8
                Hello damage_inc,

                Yes, digs always have such a twist in his maps.
                You should also try his other/newer maps. They even change the physics of water and gravitation. His ideas are really unique.



                Have fun,
                Seven

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                • #9
                  Hey Seven,

                  yeah... I just started "The Anomaly" after your suggestion I think I'm going to "noclip" afterwards to see some of the "magic" behind the tricks! Hehe

                  P.S.
                  Off topic, Thanks for all the stuff you do here at QuakeOne, it's much appreciated.
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                  • #10
                    I just checked out his website on the webarchive. he has a mapbuilding page, which is pretty interesting. the link to Mapspl itself is dead. No file can be download The last screenshot is dated March 2012, so the site went down quite recently... I tried googling the filename, but no luck, you may try it your self (ms150.rar mapspl.wad). The last version (1.50) is dated 22.01.2008, and the wad file is dated 14.04.2011. The whole website is in russian so you will find little use of it... I'll look for an e-mail or any other contact on the website and will request the file from himself (hope he still has it...)

                    EDIT: Sent an e-mail to digs, requesting the program. Waiting for reply...
                    Last edited by hgdagon; 03-03-2013, 12:53 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Got the program!!! Where to upload?????? ))
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                      • #12
                        Whoops, the documentation is only in russian...
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                        • #13
                          Mapspl

                          Mapspl.rar
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                          • #14
                            hgdagon, I appreciate the find but I have the program and associated .wad file... using it is totally different!!!
                            Last edited by damage_inc; 03-03-2013, 10:08 AM. Reason: It was late, spelled "your" name wrong
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                            • #15
                              Well... it's gonna take quite a while but how about translated manual????
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