Second Amendment

[Todd Fairfield]

grave_digga imagine they are based on true stories

These are movies. That wasn't even reality back in these days. But i see, you couldn't even imagine how it would be.

grave_digga imagine they are based on true stories, because all three movies are.

shane's settings are derived from Wyoming's Johnson County War 1892. hombre with paul newmen is based on a true story of a white boy rasised by indians then reintroduced to the white mans world and kurt russell's tombstone is a modern classic based on arizona lawman wyatt earp and his brothers also included is friend doc holliday.

movies peel back layers of modern day government psuedo protections to allow the viewer to see what individualism & pursuit of freedom & happiness make men do to defend what they have, often ending in death.

it still runs in the blood of more than half of americans because we have european style politicians ramming shit down our throats. at the end of the day we are still UNITED STATES.

[grave_digga]

Well, based on true stories but not 1to1 copies of the real thing. It's still a movie, made for entertainment. So it's "decorated" here and there but the root is based on a true story. Sure, back in the days life was harsh but is it still that way? I don't think so.

@MadGypsy:

Im pretty happy with so "less" rights. My life is safe here, i think it's a good country. Well, maybe it's because we don't have so much guns here in the population. If i want to own a gun i still could get one, everybody here over 18 could get one. But it's very restricted, you are only allowed to have it at home and the bullets couldn't be bought at wallmart or online (how this joker guy did). So it's not easy to get a gun but possible. But i don't know anybody who states "i need a gun to protect me and my family". Really nobody. I think it's so deep in your minds and into your culture that you could not act in other ways. You simply must have a gun. Over here guns have only the police/army or real gangsters.

So it's OK for me that you heve the right for a gun and you use this right, sure, go ahaed. But you could not tell me if nobody had a gun at all the USA would not be a safer country. I know this sounds hilarious to you because you don't know "the other side". That's why i said imagine how it would be but i see you couldn't imagine that at all. But it's not your fault, you were raised that way and know nothing other.

PS: Sorry for my bad grammar, i try to do my best but sometimes i miss the right words. Maybe you get the thoughts out of my writing.

[Shadowswift]

Here's a trend I can dig pretty well, and note that it did NOT come from a wiki.

I live in Texas, the gun capital of the US. In all 27 years, 3 months and twenty days that I've been alive, not a single person I've known personally has been killed by a firearm, even the people that went into the military. 8 have died in motercycle accidents. 2 have died in automobile accidents. 5 have died of old age/natural causes. 1 died of a heart attack. 1 died in his sleep from unknown causes. 1 died from lieukemia.

I must be plenty lucky, hm? Well, I dunno about that. My uncle would be among the above list. Cause of death, beaten to death by his three drug-addict neighbors. He isn't, though...thankfully he had his .357 magnum on him at the time of the attack. Lucky, no. Prepared, yes.

[MadGypsy]

you were raised that way and know nothing other.

This argument goes both ways. So for you to point fingers and say:
"You will never understand cause you have never experienced it." is a self-observation as well.

My life is safe here

You are one Marshall Law incident away from thinking this is the stupidest thing you have ever said. You are "safe" cause nothing has gone horribly wrong...yet. If you think that every country on earth going bankrupt is just going to smooth over unconsequentially, you are dead wrong. There are going to be complete collapses. If America collapses, the world collapses. America is collapsing.

When my country goes to complete shit, yours will too - like dominoes. The difference will be: In my country I will have that gun you keep claiming that I wont need, while you will have one put to your head by opportunists and those filled with desperation.

Your "arguments" insinuate that everything is fine and will continue to be so. Wake the F up man, things are not fine. They are getting worse. As it stands now, I could cull the majority of your country like a box full of sleeping kittens. You have no defense.

You think the military is going to save you? Imagine the military attempting to bring order to an entire continent. I'm sure many will not even be acknowledged as needing to be saved. Plus, in america the grand majority of people will not wait to be saved. They will save themself...with their gun. Whether it be to resist opportunists, shoot food or create a fire.

[bluntz]

You americans are really crazy. I said imagine, not "it's reality". Just think about it. But i think this "i need a gun, it's my right" stuff is so deep in your mind that you couldn't even imagine how it would be without them. Sorry, my fault.

There is nothing to "imagine"The reality is gun bans result in increased crime period.
Every single country that has banned them has had increased crime,a fact you choose to ignore.
Another little tidbit for you is the fact that you would be speaking Russian right now if American weapons did not secure it.
Imagine THAT.

[grave_digga]

This argument goes both ways. So for you to point fingers and say:
"You will never understand cause you have never experienced it." is a self-observation as well.



You are one Marshall Law incident away from thinking this is the stupidest thing you have ever said. You are "safe" cause nothing has gone horribly wrong...yet. If you think that every country on earth going bankrupt is just going to smooth over unconsequentially, you are dead wrong. There are going to be complete collapses. If America collapses, the world collapses. America is collapsing.

When my country goes to complete shit, yours will too - like dominoes. The difference will be: In my country I will have that gun you keep claiming that I wont need, while you will have one put to your head by opportunists and those filled with desperation.

Your "arguments" insinuate that everything is fine and will continue to be so. Wake the F up man, things are not fine. They are getting worse. As it stands now, I could cull the majority of your country like a box full of sleeping kittens. You have no defense.

You think the military is going to save you? Imagine the military attempting to bring order to an entire continent. I'm sure many will not even be acknowledged as needing to be saved. Plus, in america the grand majority of people will not wait to be saved. They will save themself...with their gun. Whether it be to resist opportunists, shoot food or create a fire.

You should watch less movies i think. Lots of you US Americans are so negative about everything. I'm nearly 41 years old and till yet all went OK. If it lasts the next 41 years that way it's enough for me. For me this here is a good place to live without any worries about get shot by someone that went mad and had a gun. And if the US gets down this may affect the whole world, not only my country. And a gun will not defend that. If it's really getting that worse your gun couldn't safe you at all, there are other badass guys with greater weapons that kill you in no time. Maybe you'll get some of them before you die but your little gun is not saving you at all, maybe it extends your life for a few days. If there's anarchy and chaos no "normal" citizen will live long. We're all going down then, no matter if you have a gun or not.

@bluntz:

Maybe, russians are not so bad people at all. The americans were only here because of the WW2 and for the cold war afterwards. It was them agains the USSR, not protecting us from the USSR, rather we we're the closest country to the USSR and lost the war, so they used germany as a "base". If we were just a "normal" country they wouldn't be much interested in germany at all. But hey, thanks for protecting me about 20 years of my life. But since 99% of your troops are gone the life didn't changed much here. The cold war is over and i'm fine with my life. So you should too, having a gun or not, life is great. And the crime rate here is getting down all the time and the majority of the population have no guns. Maybe this is a problem in your country but not over here.

[bluntz]

Think Tough Gun Laws Keep Europeans Safe? Think Again...

Read more: Think Tough Gun Laws Keep Europeans Safe? Think Again... | Fox News
Germany is not exempt either.
Ignore the facts all you like and enjoy your bliss while you can.
You are correct when you describe US citizens as paranoid and pissed off .We don't trust our government or the media because they like to spin the news to the highest bidder.
Case in point, Ron Paul has been completely ignored as the best candidate for president even though
he is the only electable republican candidate.

We are sick and tired of politicians making their own wars and failing to represent the will of the people by acting like COWBOYS and power hungry tyrants plundering the planet to line their pockets,outsourcing jobs and reducing civil rights and services in particular the reduction of police.There is no chance in hell we are giving up our guns.
We may very well lose the coming conflict with our government but we refuse to do so without a fight to the death.
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[grave_digga]

Sure we have some psychos here also but they only got the chance to use guns mostly because of other people. The Winnenden guy went totaly nuts and he could only use that gun because his dad hasn't put it into the safe where it belongs. So his dad is guilty too (and was also punished a far as i know). If his dad have followed the rules the kid couln't kill the people. A gun is easy to use, also it's a distance weapon. I bet most of the amok killers wouldn't went crazy using a knife or something else. That needs more courage. btw the Winnenden guy was killed 10miles away from where i work. But this happens here maybe all 10 years (and not more often) because of the hard gun law. I see/hear news of amok every few months from your country. That's what i tried to say in my very first post, wouldn't it be better without guns at all? So the psychos couldn't use them. Maybe you're all sick and tired of your government but having a gun didn't solve that problems.

[bluntz]

True, the gun is not for solving the corruption of our government.
It is in fact needed because of it.Without police on the streets you have to protect your family and home from punk ass thugs like these 2.

Crime FIghting Granny Captures Robbers

EL PASO, Texas �
An 81-year-old East El Paso woman comes home to find her home burglarized but she didn't take it sitting down.

Yoland Croyle saw a gold colored 2008 Ford Fusion parked a few houses away when she came home at 2 p.m. Thursday.

Croyle said she saw David Rivera, 20, carrying trash bags filled with items from her house toward the car. Meanwhile Sergio Alfredo Dominguez, 20, backed up the car and crashed into a rock wall, causing the car to overturn.

Rivera took off on foot. Croyle took off after him in her own car. Croyle told police when Rivera stopped, she ordered him inside her car and demanded to know his name and personal information.

"I wasn't scared. I was so mad. I couldn't even see straight," Croyle said.

When she arrived back home with Rivera in tow, Dominguez was sitting on the curb.

Police arrested both men

[metchsteekle]

>mfw fox news

[wicked_lord]

Ive always liked hillary clinton and this is another reason to like her more

SUCCESS! Hillary Clinton Doesn't Sign UN Arms Treaty

[MadGypsy]

If it came down to it, would you resist the US government and the UN should they try to "peacefully" disarm our citizenry?

Yes, without delay.

[Shadowswift]

[Dilligaf]

That's a nice statistic. I won't be specific, as to not single folks out that might have been affected... but an EDUCATED, armed citizenry can and does dissuade mass killings of innocent people... I am a card carrying member of the NRA and an educated handgun carry permit holder, licensed in the state of Tennessee. Educated meaning I have taken classes, given by state certified instructors (mine happened to be the chief of police of a neighboring city) and passed not only written tests but field tests as well. I know when and where I can legally carry my pistol. I've had a pistol on my person (and in my truck), in public, for over 15 years, without incident. I also know under what circumstances I have the legal right to defend myself and others around me. Certain criteria have to be met, but if things are right... I DO have the legal right to draw down on your ass! And yes, I have the balls to do it!

Stay away from my second amendment right!

Guns don't kill people... Criminals kill people... And by the way, they don't need a gun to do it! Wouldn't it be nice if a responsible gun owner were around when one of these wacko's decided to go off?

[MadGypsy]

I am a card carrying member of the NRA and an educated handgun carry permit holder, licensed in the state of Tennessee. Educated meaning I have taken classes, given by state certified instructors (mine happened to be the chief of police of a neighboring city) and passed not only written tests but field tests as well. I know when and where I can legally carry my pistol. I've had a pistol on my person (and in my truck), in public, for over 15 years, without incident. I also know under what circumstances I have the legal right to defend myself and others around me. Certain criteria have to be met, but if things are right... I DO have the legal right to draw down on your ass! And yes, I have the balls to do it!

Stay away from my second amendment right!

Guns don't kill people... Criminals kill people... And by the way, they don't need a gun to do it! Wouldn't it be nice if a responsible gun owner were around when one of these wacko's decided to go off?

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