Q1 Fastest Suicides Tour

[golden_boy]

Because I felt really bored with life today, I wanted to see how fast you can commit suicide with a weapon in Quake. These are the results. Times are taken from watching the status bar when you die, but one could also use the QDQ progs.

- become bored with life in e1m3 (< 6 sec) ** (timing)
- become bored with life in e2m4 (< 16 sec)
- become bored with life in e2m5 (< 7 sec)
- become bored with life in e2m7 (< 14 sec) *
- become bored with life in e3m2 (< 5 sec) * (aim)
- discharge into the water in e3m5 (< 21 sec) ** (bunnies)
- become bored with life in e4m3 (< 25 sec) *
- become bored with life in e4m4 (< 13 sec) ** (bunnies)
- discharge into the water in e4m6 (< 12 sec)
- discharge into the lava in e4m8 (< 14 sec) * (bunnies)

Anyone up to beat those times? :-) Skill 0, start map from scratch.

In case you want to count suicide with *devices*, those are kinda interesting (and creative):

- blow up in e1m1 (< 12 sec) * (bunnies)
- get squished in e1m4 (< 7 sec) *** (aim!)
- get spiked in e1m5 (< 7 sec)
- get spiked in e3m3 (< 20 sec)

The ones I marked with an asterisk (*) are the ones that are actually funny, require skill or timing etc.

I did not try "killed-by-monster" ones, I think they would be boring.

Perhaps we should collect demos and make some kind of movie. It would be pretty brutal, and short, but not without skill. And these demos are easy to make, much shorter than speedruns.

Rules: Commit suicide ASAP using either a weapon or a trap, on skill 0, starting the map from scratch. You may not be killed by a monster. Everything else is allowed.

Anyone interested?

[Canadian*Sniper]

Can a monster harm you to a near death state so you can die from a large fall?

[Paradi$e]

i dont believe in suicide, we must never give up, strive to stay alive and fight

[foq]

/me waits for Death Knight to get here

[golden_boy]

Can a monster harm you to a near death state so you can die from a large fall?

Since I remember using hellknights to hurt me enough to allow faster spiking in e3m3, I'd say yeah, that's OK. I don't think you could use that in too many maps anyway. And most often, other methods will be faster.

Here are the rest of my findings.

- bored with life in e2m1 (< 22 sec)
- bored with life in e2m2 (< 28 sec, boring)
- squished in e2m3 (< 38 sec) * (cool trap)
- e2m6: very, very difficult, discharge possible

- blew up in e3m1 (< 27 sec)
- bored with life in e3m4 (< 35 sec)
- volcano god in e3m6 (no weapons?!)
- volcano god in e3m7 (no weapons?) We should allow this IMO

- blew up in e4m1 (< 8 sec) *
- squished in e4m2 (< 14 sec) *
- spiked in e4m5 (< 17 sec) no weapons?!
- spiked in e4m7 (< 25 sec)

- volcano god in e1m6 ( 4 sec)
- volcano god in e1m7
- volcano god in e1m8

- discharged into the water in end (< 5sec)

Some maps are rather problematic, when starting with SG only. e2m6 is probably impossible unless you're one of those speedrunner types guys. *cool* Others give you no useable weapons, but nice lava. Hey, we WANT to die here, so I'm not going to argue.

By the way I just remembered, I probably ran the ones above on skill 1. Especially e3m4 and e3m1 could probably be faster on skill 0.

In e1m5, it's almost a toss up between using the spike shooters or the RL. Spikes seem faster though.

Which map were you thinking about, Sniper?

[golden_boy]

I just played through hipnotic like this, and it's pointless because unlike Quake, you'll get explosives very early.

hip1 is acceptable, because you've got to work for it, and there are some traps. The rest just give you the RL / GL / Proxy launcher right there, or lava.

Suicide in hipnotic is unfulfilling. It's like "oh, OK, you can use the rocket launcher. Stop bugging us."

/shrug

[Canadian*Sniper]

Which map were you thinking about, Sniper?

I'll pick one at random

[golden_boy]

I like that sometimes, you have to pay attention *not* to pick up armor or health. In e4m2, e4m4, e4m7 you must avoid the MH right at the start, because the additional hitpoints will cost you time... in e3m3, half of the time I picked up the YA automatically. It's a bit of a gamble, "how little can I get away with?" Old habits are shaken up a bit. :-)

[Spirit]

That is one funny idea which could make a great video!

[Baker]

- get squished in e1m4 (< 7 sec) *** (aim!)

I did that one time in a coop game just to be funny.

I'd watch a movie on playing Quake ineptly

[Canadian*Sniper]

fall to your death through the exit tunnel in e1m7 45 seconds. I was going to make 35 seconds but chthon killed me >: (

http://files.filefront.com/idiedem/;.../fileinfo.html <-- darkplaces demo

[golden_boy]

Really cool idea Sniper! But I think we should allow visiting the volcano god/turning into hot slag aka lava diving since lava, unlike water, will always kill you. We should not allow drowning.

Since the demos are mostly very short, we could include alternate versions like this *if* they're funny enough. Falling to your death is creative, so I'm all for it :-) in slo-mo plz.

Although it's really almost a speedrun, since you practically beat the map... in general, the demos should be short and violent... but if it turns out the result will be funnier, I'd be willing to drop the speed requirement completely...

IIRC, the following maps are lava death candidates:

e1m6 (could use RL but lava is faster - who can pull off an ogre GJ into the lava?)
e1m7 (could do the exit tunnel fall trick, which is admittedly funny)
e1m8 (could use RL but lava is faster)
e3m6 (is there even a useable weapon on this map?)
e3m7 (same, didn't find a weapon)
e4m8 (discharge into lava, i.e. acceptable)

e3m6 and e3m7 are problematic. I don't know those maps inside out, so I might have missed a weapon. Is lava the only way?

e2m6 is almost a speedrun, too, since the shaft comes rather late and then you got to discharge I think. The map is very cramped and it's easy to get stuck on monsters unless you use some extreme jumping tricks that I personally can't pull off. You can't even RJ or GJ either. Maybe an SDA member could do this.

Perhaps you could use one of the lifts to squish yourself. Might be faster.

My favourites so far are getting squished in e4m2 (the door has an extreme dmg value, screen turns deep red and you can see it coming, looks like half your head is severed) and the bunny-to-lavadischarge run in e4m8. Downhill bunny around a corner, pounce into the lava and *BOOOOOOOMsplotch*, a speedrunner's nightmare. Also End is pretty funny.

Maybe we should include the deathmatch maps? In SP mode so you always start at the same point (that IS the case, right)?

:-D

I'll do some demos soon.

@ everybody: If you make demos, could you use a normal netquake engine? I've had problems with Nehahra demos for example, so let's make this easy OK?

I also think that style and creativity should count here, so no hairsplitting over speed. Also, the movie should be called "Quake Is Dying (QID)" because I can't hear that anymore and in this way, it will at least be true.

[golden_boy]

SNIPER!!! You didn't play on skill 0! you foqin camp3r!!!

:-D

[foq]

foqin

[Canadian*Sniper]

SNIPER!!! You didn't play on skill 0! you foqin camp3r!!!

:-D

woops