John Rocker: Hack or no hack?

[JohnRocker]

i havent even seen the demo but i know when you took it since i told you to and to keep watching. i dont care what anyone says ban me or not. ill still be playing.

[Wolv]

why because i cant rl around the the mounds? my shaft isnt half bad in RA but the mounds get in the way because i tend to aim low like i do with rl, thats why when im fighting with rl im constantly low.. just how im used to aiming.. sometimes so low that i just shoot my feet. haha

No, you can't RL in the first place. CA or RA. It's horrible. But your shaft in RA is absolutely terrible. I find it hard to believe you can go from 40% in CA to barely even being able to follow me in a wide open area in RA.

[JohnRocker]

BS. i only played you once in RA and my shaft wasnt "terrible" i took you down to around 50H with like 30A or whatever.. and yes i can RL.
40% shaft? that would be at my best with limited shafting. i avg 25% when all is said and done. sometimes start out with 35-40. then drops during the game due to my shittiness. haha
get fucked wolv. dont be so angry that i rape you in CA.. if i was cheating why wouldnt the cheat work in RA?
ill leave you with that question to think about. if you want to 1v1 at any time and demo it and have others watch i'd be glad to play.
just priv msg me.

[Wolv]

Nope. I've seen you RA at least twice. Your shaft was terrible both times. I've seen you end CA games with more than 30-40% on more than one occasion.

You don't rape me in CA. I wouldn't even care if you do, it's just fucking Quake. I play for fun, but it's not just fun when you can kill me in a few seconds with that shaft.

[JohnRocker]

once in RA.. other time i showed up and asked someone to play at speak with me.. Yes i was on the server a 2nd time, but it was so very brief. I dont think i've Ever ended a game with 40% shaft.. MAYBE 30 if i had good shaft stats then rarely used it. im always in the 20's.
Yes i rape you in CA and you rape me in Ra. sometimes i can kill you in seconds, other times i cant. you kill me in seconds with your shaft.. so i should freak out on you too?
we got along well untill you kept mouthing off and i gave it back.. then you started to whine.. WAAHH!
yah it is just fucking quake, so take that **** out of your ass and play quake.

[Wolv]

Hah. I'm far from freaking out. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this. Bullshit on your shaft being in the 20's. On average it's over 30. I have a pretty damn good shaft, but it's no where near what you've been doing and I end my games in the low to high 20's.

I like how you're such a cocky fuck in game, but when I call you out, you act so god damn modest.

[JohnRocker]

im a cocky fuck in the game because you act like a fucking retard
any time i die or you kill me "rape".. Everytime.. so i do it back and im the cocky one? fuck you. ask other people i play with.. im not cocky to them, only when you are around because you act like a fucking idiot.

[metchsteekle]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_IkJlpG6Hc]SHUT UP OR ILL GIVE YOU BOTH A KNUCKLE SANDWICH!!!!!!![/ame]

[Wolv]

im a cocky fuck in the game because you act like a fucking retard
any time i die or you kill me "rape".. Everytime.. so i do it back and im the cocky one? fuck you. ask other people i play with.. im not cocky to them, only when you are around because you act like a fucking idiot.

Ahahah. I only do it to piss you off. But no, you're always full of yourself. Even before I say anything.

"I'm going to kill Wolvy every round."
"My shaft is so amazing. It's beyond botlike."
"I'll rape you 5-0, Wolvy."

Blahblahblah.

[rev]

what's lost in all of this is the TRUE irony of wolv putting on the full-court press trying to make JR out to be a bot. When, not even 3 months ago, wolv was the one in Rocker's position fending off SS. Seems to me that if wolv was truly innocent in all of it, he would be more likely to empathize with Rocker, maybe even defend him, saying things like "you newbies, all you guys do is accuse someone of cheating if they beat you, just like you did me." But no, he's leading the witch hunt. Why is that? Doesn't seem logical. So is it shaft-envy (pun intended) or do they share the common bond and wolv will jump at the chance of a diversion? Things to think about.

I don't expect an answer, I'm not saying I think either of the two cheat. I haven't ever watched demo's of either of them, I simply don't care if they do or don't cheat. They can beat me. That in itself is why I still play quake and I completely stopped playing all console games when I started playing quake. I'm just stirring the pot, a terd in a pissing contest.

[JohnRocker]

I started acting like that because you got me started. i dont say anything like that to anyone else.. just you.. dont you think its for a reason? because you are a fucking shithead? Yup.
just because i say "Im gonna kill wolvy every rnd" before you say anything does mean i dont remember the day before when you wouldnt shut the fuck up.. you dont have to say anything at the begining of the game to know you will say something after that round..

btw whoever removed my avatar is a shithead.. all you had to do was ask me to remove it and i would have..
fucking shithead.

[Wolv]

what's lost in all of this is the TRUE irony of wolv putting on the full-court press trying to make JR out to be a bot. When, not even 3 months ago, wolv was the one in Rocker's position fending off SS.

Yeah, I took this into consideration. I figured someone would bring it up. You'll never see me accusing anyone of hacking unless I'm 100% sure.

At first I didn't think much of it. I didn't even want to believe it. I jokingly accused him of botting a few weeks ago when he was playing Shok. He was ridiculously defensive about it and ended up leaving. Then I played him a few times and realized that he may actually be hacking.

His shaft is ridiculous and is incredibly bot-like. If anyone has ever played Kimp when he bots, you'll know if you strafe in one direction, his bot's shaft will be about an inch away from you, follow you perfectly but won't hit you. I've noticed Rocker's shaft does this same thing. It's always an even distance away from the attacker, follows them perfectly but won't touch them when they go flying in one direction.

[JohnRocker]

btw when i played shok i was mega wasted.. shok and efess had to remind me that i played the night before.. probably why i got mouthy.

you notice everything wolvy, except you say yourself my shaft sucks terribly sometimes but not others.. you rape me in RA and thats why i cant get my shaft going.. you got 3 rl's in my face before i can half shaft you because im fired across the arena.. if i was a bot it would for sure show in RA.. that shaft would "stick" like you say.

[foq]

Wow. This thread crossed paths with an entire herd of drama llamas.

Wolv's shaft is pretty amazing too and sometimes I wonder, but at the end of the day, none of it matters. Those who cheat will cheat. All you can do is become better or perhaps develop strategies targeted at that one speicfic person, which we can do in Quake since it is a very small community with a very small amount of servers. For example, player x is a fish, don't even try to fight him in the water, or player y always hides in a certian spot.

[metchsteekle]

player y always hides in a certian spot.

ssshhh dont tell them that, or ill have to find NEW ones