John Rocker: Hack or no hack?

[rev]

yea i was just saying, if he can outshaft ya id consider him a bawt ;o

if that is the standard we're using here, then rocker is definitely a bot. it's been a while since i've seen rampage in top form but i can easily say rocker's shaft is better. that shaft is LIKE WHOA!!!
still not saying he cheats/bots/toggles, just saying if that's the standard neil goes by, then neil would think he bots. it would be great to watch, a 20 round CA match between those two with all other weapons disabled. it wouldn't be a blow-out, but i believe rocker would win, though ramp has better strategy/movement/awareness, hence the disabling of weapons. seriously, lets make this match up happen. loser gets laffed at and winner gets called a bot. sound good?

[foq]

With all other weapons disabled eh? That would change the gameplay entirely. You're thinking about taking rocket jumps away man...

[rev]

that's kinda the point foq. if you allow rjs then forget about it, no one is beating ramp on a good day. some people may be better than him at this OR that, but not this AND that. inarguably the most complete CA'er i've ever had the priviledge to witness. i can't say quaker because i've only seen him play CA.

oh i have seen him play ctf, which he's good at, but nobody counts that mod.

[SUNSHINE]

Plested JohnRocker Cheating!

Yea.. I didn't even think much about since the last time I had played him. I ran circles around and him and made him leave the server to go sit at speaknow where he pinged a whopping 20 ms more.. He was just stupid.. and got owned. On on our admin mailing list, I had a few ppl ask questions about him, in regards to how he was playing like this now..

I was drunk at the server (admit!).. Bash me for being a drunkard admin who is abusive.. Roffle. Neo-maxi-zoom dwebbies. I was too busy afk'ing because of the odd numbers in order to allow other people to play and I noticed a few things he did. I started the demo and just demo'd for a while on him.

Before this, he was asking me if I had admin to the server, he heard I helped pay for speaknow.. and was asking me about HDZ servers and whether I had admin to. In which I told him no.. they all hated me and removed my admin for being abusive etc.. *SMIRK* He felt comfortable then to play his game..

First 10 seconds of the demo.. You can tell. Just .. sad. I talked to Neil on irc about it afterwards.. (he did say he gave shit to JR but didn't think he used it.) can pull up logs, but don't care to.. Let me get into this log.

Asked Neil to give me some verification to paste this - but he wasn't around. Didn't understand if the first part was "between us" or the second part..

I think the first part is funnier..

HAD TO DELETE THIS WHOLE SECTION OF LOGS.. MEANT WHAT NEIL WAS SAYING.. SORRY..




!!!-obviously I can't comment beyond that.-!!!

I was asked not to fuck with Rocker. Bring it Canadian NSA boy or whatever the fuck you're trying to scare me with. I know you're a fucking a idiot.. Don't care what you to have to offer.. Watch the demo, tell me what you did wrong...

http://www.plexwave.com/quake/rocker01.zip


I guess you "owned" to hard.... I'm guessing you're say..

You're banned.. Cry a river and get over it. Should have played legit like you did a week before. It's not me either. I just happen to help admin every server.. and .. the demo dude.. What the hell. R-e-t-a-r-d-o.


Btw, that demo may have me admin'ing up in it - doesn't matter - all clanhdz and speaknow admins are being changed this week with the exception of Dredd.quakeone.com.

Who gave badaim admin to kick and ban people? lol..

Really pissed.. I have an idea of who did.


-Chase

[PapaSmurf]

I didn't watch the TG demo, but from the CA demos, I saw no evidence of aim botting.

[rev]

lol ss, were you distracted a lot during that post? and can you pm me the section you had to edit out? i'm really curious as to what it says, i won't tell anyone, i just can't stand not knowing.

[JohnRocker]

haha SS i love everything you said because its all so backwards and fucked up. lol
i asked you about if you paid for the servers or not AFTER you banned me.. when you demo'd me i had no idea who you where.. you used a name "TITAN-AN-????" something like that..
Why the fuck would neil give me anything? we dont even get along.. we dont fight but we dont talk at all. He knows where i work and what i do so im assuming thats why we arent social.. only connection i have with neil is because of q1 and his brother who i used to talk to alot. and Thats it.
The first paragraph says something about playing at a server then going to speaknow where i ping 20ms more? wtf? you mean less? and where did we play before that? not at rage cuz i ping 150 at rage for some fucking bizarre reason. so thats false as well..
ALso... how come everytime i hear from you the time changes from when i apparently was "shit" to all the sudden amazing? you've said 3 weeks, you've said 2 weeks, you said EXACTLY last tuesday night "1 week ago today" and i was NOT even at my house as i was out of the city working.. none of this is making sense..
Also.. Im not crying about being banned, i made one post on the forum when it first happened because you told me to go to quakeone forums and ask why.. havent bitched since because i really dont care.

Canadian NSA? wtf? i havent tried to scare you with anything.. i never said anything about what i do for a living. you said Neil said something to you while you where packeting me for an hour.. then you stopped.. i wouldnt want to bring up what i do for a living. not worth the time. its quake.. haha big deal
some people think i cheat. others dont.. so do whatever you want SS. ban me or not. thats fine. its your server, which is what i keep telling you.
I will keep playing... a simple ban from speaknow wont stop me from quaking.. silly boy..
anyways..
I dont cheat.
Even Neil who is a well known guy who can code very well doesnt think im botting.. why the fuck would he stand up for me? he has no reason too.

K bored... so much more i can say but its taking so much time trying to remember everything..
oh ya.. i think me and Tal 1v1'ing would be fun

[Rampage]

I don't get what all the crap is around here anyway.. everyone is getting bogged down way too much into Quake politics bullshit..

[lunatichigh]

I don't actually think anything in wolv's demos is evidence, I was being sarcastic. The only thing that stands out is the discrepancy between overall movement and decisions and LG skill. If there were quake cards for players and quake had attributes for agility and other things, his would be less evenly distributed than you other top players (to an extreme).

[PapaSmurf]

I don't think his movement is all that bad, it's just bad for 2009. In 1996-1997 everyone had movement similar to Rocker's movement. It just looks weird because he's not jumping all over the place for extra speed.

[SUNSHINE]

no bogging down

Nah.. Rocker.. Can't post to you the missing section. I would be violating someones trust.. You're not worth that. Watch the demo HOMMIE G SLICE. Says enough. Banned. Speaknow, all rage servers, hell.. even the ctf and crctf servers. HDZ ra servers.. yea. Could ban you on DREDD.QUAKEONE.COM too.. Phenom might get mad though.

Still don't understand why you did that.. could have played fair - would have been fine. Just a retardo..

[SUNSHINE]

lol ss, were you distracted a lot during that post? and can you pm me the section you had to edit out? i'm really curious as to what it says, i won't tell anyone, i just can't stand not knowing.

Come on IRC - server : irc.gamesurge.net - join #ashtray


I'll submit any info I can without Violating peoples trust...

[SUNSHINE]

haha SS i love everything you said because its all so backwards and fucked up. lol
i asked you about if you paid for the servers or not AFTER you banned me.. when you demo'd me i had no idea who you where.. you used a name "TITAN-AN-????" something like that..
Why the fuck would neil give me anything? we dont even get along.. we dont fight but we dont talk at all. He knows where i work and what i do so im assuming thats why we arent social.. only connection i have with neil is because of q1 and his brother who i used to talk to alot. and Thats it.
The first paragraph says something about playing at a server then going to speaknow where i ping 20ms more? wtf? you mean less? and where did we play before that? not at rage cuz i ping 150 at rage for some fucking bizarre reason. so thats false as well..
ALso... how come everytime i hear from you the time changes from when i apparently was "shit" to all the sudden amazing? you've said 3 weeks, you've said 2 weeks, you said EXACTLY last tuesday night "1 week ago today" and i was NOT even at my house as i was out of the city working.. none of this is making sense..
Also.. Im not crying about being banned, i made one post on the forum when it first happened because you told me to go to quakeone forums and ask why.. havent bitched since because i really dont care.

Canadian NSA? wtf? i havent tried to scare you with anything.. i never said anything about what i do for a living. you said Neil said something to you while you where packeting me for an hour.. then you stopped.. i wouldnt want to bring up what i do for a living. not worth the time. its quake.. haha big deal
some people think i cheat. others dont.. so do whatever you want SS. ban me or not. thats fine. its your server, which is what i keep telling you.
I will keep playing... a simple ban from speaknow wont stop me from quaking.. silly boy..
anyways..
I dont cheat.
Even Neil who is a well known guy who can code very well doesnt think im botting.. why the fuck would he stand up for me? he has no reason too.

K bored... so much more i can say but its taking so much time trying to remember everything..
oh ya.. i think me and Tal 1v1'ing would be fun

Don't know what you're talking about... so much jumbled info. We have 6 admins who have watched the demo.. *snort*.. Why don't you come on irc and talk to me. gamesurge #quake1 or #ashtray

[SUNSHINE]

I really don't understand it either.. Played you a few weeks.. whenever I was.. Did horrible.. Then I get e-mail complaints.. Then I gp to a server where you're insisting on my admin priv's to different servers I help run.. which I deny all - and you play like a jackass - first like 10-20 sectons.. its pretty obvious. Don't give a crap what else you have to say... All of the admins have watched the demo and welll.. It didn't work out for you....

come on IRC i'll talk to you about it. Willing to to do that... Because I'm nice.

[badaim]

Btw, that demo may have me admin'ing up in it - doesn't matter - all clanhdz and speaknow admins are being changed this week with the exception of Dredd.quakeone.com.

Who gave badaim admin to kick and ban people? lol..

Really pissed.. I have an idea of who did.


-Chase

lmao, ok chase!.. did your little butt buddy dreadful come crying to you after he got kicked for spamming text during a game he was'nt playing in???, from your "track record" thats a banable offense, shit, if you were there and it was someone else other than dread, you would have banned them.

By far!! you are the WORST admin I've ever seen and I know A LOT of players would agree with that. You are the epitome of admin abuse with your ban happy mouse click finger. Change the codes on yourself if you think I am admin abusing, because like i said, your the one abusing admin. Name one player that I have banned, then look at yourself and compare the numbers. I have banned nobody you egotistical, hypo critical jackass.

-chuck