ProQuake 3.95: Digitally signed for cheat-free

[Baker]

/If I don't put the stuff here, I might forget.

Note to self: Do an update tonight.

Coming later this week: A live in-game server browser and individual HTTP map download from the map section here.

Both of these will be www based, instead of network protocol based. It probably will be much faster as a result.

[Baker]

Note to self: Do an update tonight.

Ah, the hell with that. :d

Coming later this week: A live in-game server browser and individual HTTP map download from the map section here.

All I can say this is 70% done and it downloads even bloaty maps like Zop's 2.7 MB fatty of an aucons.bsp like lightning.

No, this isn't wait 2 minutes for the map download. This is wait 4 seconds for the map to download. And actually typical maps like Aerowalk are 2.1 seconds. I think about 0.5 seconds of this is resolving the DNS so I'm somewhat tempted to see if there is a long-term static ip of a place the maps can be located.

I'm cheating on this so incredibly cruelly it's ridiculous. Once I have this ready Rook will agree and some engine purist will NOT be happy with me. I'm using JoeQuake's dz demo play as a model and have created a small little helper app called mapget that does the heavy lifting.

I'll have to mess around quite a bit to get the live server browser to work. But it'll be worth it. Getting the data isn't the problem, it's just all the fun work I'm going to need to do for the on-screen display.

Initially I was going to not worry about mods like ThreeWave and Slide with custom models. But then after further examination, I have a hacky way to deal with this (have it look through the model list for any signature models, like how CTF has star.mdl and slide has reslide.mdl and assume those data files are needed.) and the truth is that I quickly discovered that the CTF models and such are pretty small. I might talk to Rook to see if there is a good way to do this instead.

In time, I figure what the external utility does will end up relocated into the engine. But for now, doing it in a "proper" way will be too slow because I want this done this week.

[R00k]

Sounds good! Not to steer you off course, but a "proper" way you could establish a web-based download interface would be to use the CURL library. I know WarSoW uses this, but I truely havent looked into it any further than the main page.

[PapaSmurf]

Baker, before you go too far down the road with these new features. I just wanted to point out that some people have said that your proquake doesn't feel the same as proquake 3.5. More precisely, the mouse input doesn't feel the same. Now, I can't troubleshoot this because I havent' experienced it, but I have heard this from a couple of people. Do you think this might be due to the fact that directinput is implemented differently in 3.5 than in 3.99?

[=peg=]

I know ALT-ENTER switching from fullscreen to window mode makes a difference in how the mouse feels.. i use 1280x1024 fullscreen mode and in order to make the mouse feel unaccelerated i need to ALT-ENTER to 1280x1204 windowed mode (which is still fullscreen) and only then the mouse feels the way it should.. (it initializes direct input again).

[Baker]

Baker, before you go too far down the road with these new features. I just wanted to point out that some people have said that your proquake doesn't feel the same as proquake 3.5. More precisely, the mouse input doesn't feel the same. Now, I can't troubleshoot this because I havent' experienced it, but I have heard this from a couple of people. Do you think this might be due to the fact that directinput is implemented differently in 3.5 than in 3.99?

I think this is because with -gamma ProQuake mouse movement feels like ProQuake and without it, ProQuake feels like Qrack mouse movement.

I am thinking about disabling the real time gamma (brightness adjustment) by default because no matter how many times I post it or put it in a readme, people aren't going to listen.

And that's fine!

I don't believe in listening or reading to play a game.

ProQuake is for old schoolers, so I don't think there would be any harm in defaulting -gamma.

I know ALT-ENTER switching from fullscreen to window mode makes a difference in how the mouse feels.. i use 1280x1024 fullscreen mode and in order to make the mouse feel unaccelerated i need to ALT-ENTER to 1280x1204 windowed mode (which is still fullscreen) and only then the mouse feels the way it should.. (it initializes direct input again).

I'll ask you more about this as I get closer to making a release candidate for 4.00.

[Baker]

Sounds good! Not to steer you off course, but a "proper" way you could establish a web-based download interface would be to use the CURL library. I know WarSoW uses this, but I truely havent looked into it any further than the main page.

Eventually, I'll do this properly but and I think I want that available (Curl) plus the Quakeworld style map/model download off the hosting server.

But by the time I get to that place, I'll have some other things I want as well.

[Baker]

I'm about to the point where I'm going to be working on the server browser display.

I have 40 characters to work with in order to support the minimum Quake video width of 320.

I think I'm going to have a 2 digit country code (US, EU, PT, etc. -- yep, Europe gets to be a country and the hell with Canada :d ) so you know what you're getting when you connect.

Going to allocate 19 characters for the server name, 5 for the # players/#max display, 6 for map name and 2 for the mod type (DM, CA, RQ, RA, etc. -- CTF gets to be CF.)

And I'll look something like this on-screen.

Server List
---------|---------|---------|---------|
> US Rage Clan Arena     06/16 Q1EDGE CA
  US Shmack Rune Quake   05/14 DM3    RQ
  EU Flanders DM         03/08 AEROWA DM
  US Shmack Rocket Arena 02/08 ARENAX RA

I'll have to edit Solecord's server parser to write a new file out.

But the nice thing about this will be, the server browser will be instant with no need to query servers because Solecord's script does all the work.

One limitation is that the QuakeOne server browser only updates once per minute, but in reality that is faster than when Qview queries a lot of servers.

I also need to think about model/sound download. I have a couple of different ideas for ideal solutions.

All of the CTF models/sounds and all of the Slide model sounds compress to be about 300K total. It's the maps that are large, not the little models and supporting files. I also want to think about the .loc files; I think everyone should have those.

CA sounds - 7z compressed = 497 KB
CTF models/sounds - 7z compressed = 172 KB
Slide models/sounds - 139 KB

So really it isn't the maps/models that make things like the Threewave pak large. That stuff is very small.

[=peg=]

woot can't wait to test that

[Baker]

Back to finishing this up after 3 days of slacking off ...

The 7z download process literally downloads aucons in 2.25 seconds and aerowalk in 0.18 seconds on my 4Mbps cable.

I have a lot of finish up to do on this, but I'm hoping this will be available in few hours.

[Phenom]

Awesome!

I'm looking forward to seeing this in action!

[Fuzznut]

Thanks for all your hard work Baker!

[spooker]

wow, if u get a working in game server browser, you might even convert me from glpro 3.5!

[Baker]

I keep finding little obstacles that are slowing me down

us chicago cax         09/12 e1m1   ca
us shmack rune quake   09/16 e3m1   rq
us rage clan arena     02/16 dm3    ca
us rum threewave pub c 01/16 e4m8   cf
us beatdown alley 3    01/09 efdm9  rq
us fear rqp+           01/12 dm3    rq
eu flanders coop(eu)   00/08 intro  cp
eu blackhat ffa        00/16 e4m5   dm
eu blackhat match      00/16 dm6    dm
eu flanders dm(eu)     00/08 ztndm3 dm
eu flanders newdm      00/08 e2m5   nd
eu qrf rocket arena    00/12 arma4  ra
eu euroquake           00/16 summer rq
eu flanders motd       00/08 slstar sl
us ihoc airquake       00/04 air2   aq
eu qrf slide hoverboar 00/12 dm2    sl
us bomber clan arena   00/16 dm3    ca
us clan hdz ca+        00/16 dm3    ca
us rage cax 26001      00/16 dm3    ca
us rage cax 26002      00/16 dm3    ca
us rage cax 26003      00/16 dm3    ca
us rage cax 26004      00/16 dm3    ca
us rage cax 26005      00/16 dm3    ca
us rum clan arena      00/16 dm3    ca
us clan hdz threewave  00/16 bastar cf
us quakeone ctf        00/16 e3m6   cf
us rum shareware xctf  00/16 e1m5   cf
us rum threewave ctf   00/16 start  cf
us xmd pub ctf         00/08 start  cf
us rquake team coopera 00/12 intro  cp
us arizona ofqsp       00/16 dm6    dm
us chi1 suroot dm      00/16 dm6    dm
us clan hdz dm         00/16 dm3    dm
us edmonton ofqsp      00/16 dm3    dm
us fremont ofqsp       00/16 dm3    dm
us philadelphia ofqsp  00/16 dm6    dm
us quake crmod         00/16 dm3    dm
us rum crmod           00/16 start  dm
us shmack practice mod 00/16 dm6    dm
us virginia ofqsp      00/16 dm3    dm
us whitehot newdm      00/04 listen dm
us future vs. fantasy  00/12 e3m2   ff
us ihoc headhunters    00/08 e1m2   hh
us xoc pub headhunters 00/06 e1m2   hh
us ihoc hpb only       00/08 dm1    ih
us ihoc match          00/08 start  ih
us ihoc rocketwar      00/08 e1m6   ih
us ihoc vs. bots       00/16 start  ih
us rum ihoc            00/16 e1m1   ih
us xmd artifact-rjs    00/06 e4m7   ih
us xmd ihoc            00/10 start  ih
us xoc ihoc            00/12 e4m3   ih
us xoc ihoc 26001      00/08 start  ih
us xoc ihoc 26002      00/15 start  ih
us ihoc quake chat     00/08 dm1    ot
us xoc lab             00/15 north  ot
us ihoc rocket arena   00/08 terrai ra
us rocket arena hdz    00/10 yard1  ra
us rq rocket arena     00/08 arenrg ra
us rum rocket arena    00/10 arendm ra
us xoc rocket arena    00/04 terrai ra
us etches park rq      00/10 e1m7   rq
us ihoc runehoc        00/06 dm5    rq
us msm rune quake      00/16 e3m7   rq
us xoc artifact-rjs    00/09 e1m1   rq
us ihoc slide hoverboa 00/08 slstar sl
us zopmod              00/05 dm4    zp
br jogos dm            00/12 dm3    dm
br terra crmod         00/12 dm3    dm
br terra crmod         00/12 dm6    dm
br terra total destruc 00/12 e3m4   td

But that's fine! Little obstacles are fun.

[Baker]

Note to self:

WinQuake doesn't release the mouse in windowed mode when in the console or menu like GLQuake does. Investigate and fix.