Quake Reforged Project

[Hazza]

Don't forget this interpretation!

*Giggles*

The Shambler by ~Harry-the-Fox on deviantART

[PlayeR]

Chthon

Hi!

I was just wondering if the map e1m7 (House of Chthon) could be remake and instead of lava if it could be water and something pretty deep may be like water in DM3 or even bigger... just an idea (and a future project).

[smoketetsu]

But Chthon is a lava monster!

[gnounc]

urrrrrrrrrrr.......?!

[Hazza]

Player- that would actually be pretty awesome and really creepy- I like it!
(although I actually think someone should do it as a mod boss)

[Senban]

It would be really easy to do badly, just drop the floor of the pool and change the lava to water, but if you noclip under Chthon you'll see he's got no legs or tail, nor any other appendages for that matter, so to do it well you'd have to model the rest of his body, which I suspect from the lack of home made monsters in mods and general griping I've picked up on about the limits of the .mdl format I suspect is rather easier said than done.

[Hazza]

Quite right Senban- although there are two cases that come close: The Vermis from Quoth has a VERY long body because it's meant to rise high to reach players on higher ledges, and low to reach players on the ground (kind of like the Tentacle from Half-Life).

The other is the "Anaconda" from the custom map of the same name- though the water is just super shallow. There was a dynamic entry where his whole body coils all around you, but after they subside it's only his head (and personally, I wouldn't mind a few bobbing snake tail here and there trailing around behind him).

What I would find interesting is an aquatic boss that is basically Cthhon with a tail in a large room (maybe a grotto) filled with water and with a few ledges, where it can follow you around the room through the water, and you can either fight it from the surface (where it can throw stuff), or duck down underwater to try to get somewhere (maybe there's health below) and it can dive after you (maybe charges forward like the Ichthyosaur) but cannot throw anything....

[Nergal]

Unfortunately I've no time to make even a quick test, but it's fairly easy.
In Darkplaces you have to create a folder inside /textures with the name of the map and the files to overwrite.

Example:
../id/textures/e1m7/lava.tga
where lava.tga is water, only renamed.
The result is having water in e1m7 but lava everywhere else, as usual.

The real problem is that chthon has no tail, his body ends right below the lava, as you already know, and it's not going to be a great match with water transparency.

BTW, my previous idea was to make a rotten demon - a mess of flesh and horns, that emerges from a pool of blood and human pieces, but I feared the "no faithful" hammer too much.

[smoketetsu]

Sounds like a good alternative skin. Maybe it can throw exploding poo.

[metchsteekle]

sounds excellent for a custom single player episode/mod

[Mancubus]

BTW, my previous idea was to make a rotten demon - a mess of flesh and horns, that emerges from a pool of blood and human pieces, but I feared the "no faithful" hammer too much.

I personally would choose this one to play. Why not make it an Alternative skin? It would be awesome!

[masak]

Quake 1 on facebook 9200 fans

Quake reforged is an amazing project and I watch him from the beginning, I discovered the fb fan page Quake 1 where nearly 10,000 fans, maybe there Bytom your project more visible and learn about not only the insiders

Quake | Facebook

[CarVio]

BTW, my previous idea was to make a rotten demon - a mess of flesh and horns, that emerges from a pool of blood and human pieces, but I feared the "no faithful" hammer too much.

Hell I want this !!!! I think good ol' Quake could need some extra gore

Oh and another thing. Since there was discussed about the gibbed heads...maybe you can make the heads puking blood like there was on the earlier deathknight-version ? this with growing bloodpools ?

But back to Cthon...i really like the idea of that rotten demon...ok without the proposed exploding poo but maybe with something like...demonic power filled in skins of human heads...and this power is glowing out of the eyes and mouth of that skin as cthon is throwing them at you and explodes on inpact...lets say...demonic TNT filled in heads i think that would work just fine with a pool of blood filled with bodyparts

[smoketetsu]

Hell I want this !!!! I think good ol' Quake could need some extra gore

Oh and another thing. Since there was discussed about the gibbed heads...maybe you can make the heads puking blood like there was on the earlier deathknight-version ? this with growing bloodpools ?

This sounds good... I'd like to see that!

But back to Cthon...i really like the idea of that rotten demon...ok without the proposed exploding poo

Haha, yeah I was kidding... like he was some kind of decrepit decaying kong monkey thing.

but maybe with something like...demonic power filled in skins of human heads...and this power is glowing out of the eyes and mouth of that skin as cthon is throwing them at you and explodes on inpact...lets say...demonic TNT filled in heads i think that would work just fine with a pool of blood filled with bodyparts

This sounds creepy enough and like a pretty good idea for an alternative. You've got some good ideas there.

[Hazza]

BTW, my previous idea was to make a rotten demon - a mess of flesh and horns, that emerges from a pool of blood and human pieces, but I feared the "no faithful" hammer too much.

I say as someone who *IS* looking forward to the lovecraftian vertical-mouth-head monster (with a chewing motion going and some burning frothing glowing fire pouring out of his mouth- ahem), to do that other skin anyway, because lots of fans have a different idea about the best style of Quake and having the choices is awesome! Not to mention it would be plain awesome to see what you make!
Speaking of which, you need to release the alt skin of Shub *****rath, with the throbbing heart, she's awesome! I'm still staring at it on the Reforged site!

On another note about 'water' textures- would it be the same deal with slime? (as the only downside about my retexture pack is that the slime looks a lot like murky water texture- which were it not for the green lighting and my familiarity with the game, would be pretty dangerous)!