Should JohnRocker be perma banned from Rage?

[JohnRocker]

the comment about phenom not meantioning muting me was made before i saw his latest post that he made while i was making mine.

[Stung]

The entire beginning of what happened according to you is false, you did tell chad to kick me, i did NOT say stfu rocker because of this simple fact:

I had no fucking clue light_tu, which was the ringer name you were using, was indeed john rocker at the time. I later found out from shok on IRC (as pasted to vis) that the guy shit talking me, and getting me banned essentially, was rocker. That is when I found it out.

Any other False statements you wish to make?


Addendum: I actually do recall what happened,

3 EXL people joined the server, you said EXL get out, chad kick them, I said wtf, and you said stfu sting I own you.

I VIVIDLY recall saying this:

"unless you are light.bot (2002-2003 good CA player) you don't stand a chance"

summarily you said 1-1 aerowalk, i inductively reasoned that it may be plested but why ring for tu?.
I got muted, alt-tabbed, saw shok say it was you.
I came back, you continued shit talking, berating me without me really replying other than to say stfu (which by the fucking way chad supports what you were trying to do-- I was trying to get him to shut the fuck up), I implored chad not to kick me (literally saying dont fucking kick me ******), you continued to shit talk which chad saw as too much of a distraction and thus he banned me since it was the safe move (as I wasnt in the match) albeit unjustified one.

Anything else I need to add other than verbatim statements from the event?

[Stung]

And the definition of being unable to talk is called being "dumb" or "mute", and Phenom's initial statement itself supports disallowing you to talk. 2+2 = 4 . 2nd grade logical associations.

You may wish to know a thing or two about *reasonable* arguments if you're going to be a lawyer.

[JohnRocker]

sting why would i bother verbally owning you? i dont try to impress anyone on here or irc. do you hear me blurting out case laws and shit? no. because i dont have to prove myself and clearly you have something to prove.
so the fact phenom said "kick in rockers teeth do he cant talk" means mute me? doesnt mean the same thing.. kick someones teeth in, or stitch their mouth shut.. 2 different results. 2 + 2 = 4? ya thought so.
ok and you got me on the "stfu rocker" it was "stfu light" you got me. but as im still the same person im still right. and wait.. did you say after frenzy banned you, you went and cried to him about being banned because "light_tu" told frenzy to ban you? wow.. thats so pathetic.

[Phenom]

Criiiipppple Fiiiggghhht!!!

[Stung]

sting why would i bother verbally owning you? i dont try to impress anyone on here or irc. do you hear me blurting out case laws and shit? no. because i dont have to prove myself and clearly you have something to prove.
so the fact phenom said "kick in rockers teeth do he cant talk" means mute me? doesnt mean the same thing.. kick someones teeth in, or stitch their mouth shut.. 2 different results. 2 + 2 = 4? ya thought so.
ok and you got me on the "stfu rocker" it was "stfu light" you got me. but as im still the same person im still right. and wait.. did you say after frenzy banned you, you went and cried to him about being banned because "light_tu" told frenzy to ban you? wow.. thats so pathetic.

And as far as proving something,


I prove logic. Everything I do and say is logical and based on true premises, with (admitted) behavioral exceptions involving DM outbursts. As soon as you begin to realize this, you'll realize you can't win an argument with me unless you prove my logic is invalid and/or unsound(/uncogent); in which case, I will summarily agree with you and no disagreement would even exist at that point.

[JohnRocker]

actually i'd like to see the demo stung cuz i know ur a liar. cuz i know for a fact i didnt ask for 1v1 aerowalk. i simply said "1v1?". and do you think i dont know who light.bot was? i was fucking in bot you idiot.
btw.. getting kicked/ban/muted is what you deserve for entering a server when a match is going on and shit talking while im trying to play. mute was deserved and the ban was also deserved.

[Canadian*Sniper]

JR = Timmy. Always talking shit like "Timmay!" and "Timay Timiah!!"



I guess Stung = Jimmy? Takes steroids and beats up his woman?

[Stung]

actually i'd like to see the demo stung cuz i know ur a liar. cuz i know for a fact i didnt ask for 1v1 aerowalk. i simply said "1v1?". and do you think i dont know who light.bot was? i was fucking in bot you idiot.
btw.. getting kicked/ban/muted is what you deserve for entering a server when a match is going on and shit talking while im trying to play. mute was deserved and the ban was also deserved.

Once more, circular logic involving a misapplied general principle. Sort of a combined begging the question and accidental logical fallacy, congrats plested.

And it's based on the false implication that I started the shit talking or even shit talked period. Untrue. I did talk and did say stfu. congrats for proving me right that I was not attempting to subvert and denigrate the quality of the scrimmage, rather to get you to shut the fuck up and play, period, so that we could challenge you to a scrim afterward.

Anything useful to say yet?

Arguing with you is about as rewarding as disproving a statement from a five year old.

[JohnRocker]

no.. i think stung is Mr.Slippyfist at the end.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

JR doesnt get along well with others is what it boils down to. If JR hears something he doesnt like,he starts shit talking. I hear things I dont like all the time,but very rarely do I stoop to shit talking to let them know I dont like what im hearing. one of the rare instances I have done so is with JR,but with good reason,based on the fact that whenever I would accept a 1on1 challenge from him, it had to be his way or no way,and if I felt playing 1on1 Aero everytime we 1v1'd ,and on the same server everytime (chi.quakeone) became a bit redundant,and if I said anything about how it wasnt very fair or fun to play with a 80-150 spiking ping at chi.quakeone,or about how it was always Aerowalk we played, I was told to stfu and quit wasting his time.

JR is a decent quaker, but his attitude is trashy and if anything degrades from the community.I now know why he was such a friend with Vibe,because they are alike each other in many ways.

Mute JR, and if he resorts to using his name as a keyhole of shit talking,perma ban. I have no need to vote in this poll.

[JohnRocker]

ya it takes stung a while to think about what hes gonna say, so he goes back and fixes it.

[JohnRocker]

funny mindz. after the match on chi where you pinged 60-100 "no higher as i have the demo to prove it" we went to rage and 1v1'd dm3 which i won. so shut it.

[Phenom]

lol Mindzx, seriously tho good speech..

I just got a vivid image of JR peeping through a door's keyhole on the outside of a Quake party (16/16) and JR just tryn to pick the lock with a hairpin and keeps peeking in like " I want to be happy like them"

[Stung]

ya it takes stung a while to think about what hes gonna say, so he goes back and fixes it.

Oversimplified False cause fallacy.

It has to do with me being able to type 130-150wpm. Mistakes occur. I fix them. I admit my syntaxical errors and correct them. Perhaps you should try applying this PARTICULAR idea involving English syntax as a general principle for anything you do. Might actually correct some mistakes instead of repackaging and reselling the same bullshit over and over.