Most Difficult Enemy

[metchsteekle]

perhaps you should play some custom maps, it might change your views.

[foq]

Radec, ever heard of the shambler dance? I can take down a shambler with the axe no problem

[Monster]

i think my grandmother could do that and she has no limbs

[Baker]

The vore easily. Spawns are annoying but tend to get themselves trapped under stairs.

A vore and no cover is exceedingly deadly.

Shamblers have limited range and skilled players can fight them maybe even with just an axe and killed them and survive the fight if they have full health and are lucky.

[foq]

I can kill a shambler starting with 1h and win... provided it's a 1 on 1 with the shabmler and there's nothing else to attack me

[Hazza]

The problem with shamblers and vores is actually the same as the centroid- they're super hard till you figure out their weaknesses, then it's just a matter of being careful to exploit them.

I'm pretty sloppy at the shambler dance but I can usually take a few at once without losing too much health- they're so big and reasonably easy to trick away from shooting at you.
Interestingly, I've found it takes just as many shots from the super-shotgun as it would from the rocket launcher to take them down- which probably makes this gun my choice for fighting them if I have no cells as you can only take potshots anyway (about 2 before he shoots back)- the nails and rockets are too precious against other monsters anyway.

Vores- 99 percent of the time I kill them in a few seconds by lobbing some grenades around the corner- because they're so big I rarely ever miss. Also, because they have such a big collision box I can actually shoot them safely around the corner.
I've found they're only dangerous in open areas, or are really far away.
Although without the disadvantages they would be pretty nasty indeed.

Their attacks do a fair bit of damage- but at worst you can usually afford to take it once or twice (possibly six times with armour), and unlike the fiends and spawn who swipe at you in a frenzy, these two monsters don't attack as often.

For me, fiends and spawns are the only monsters to consistently kill me even in good conditions. Plus, you really have to be on your toes and simply can't afford to let either attack you at all, unlike the others.

Oh, for mod monsters- probably the hardest, on reflection, is the Eliminator (upgraded enforcer) from Quoth- they seriously eat any player, monster or action hero for breakfast! I've barely survived taking them on! And they're nothing but enforcers with better guns (faster projectiles that explode- about four shots and you're out!)

[Perochi]

The most difficult enemy of them all The Grim Reaper

[metchsteekle]

Perochi keeps it real

[foq]

The problem with shamblers and vores is actually the same as the centroid- they're super hard till you figure out their weaknesses, then it's just a matter of being careful to exploit them.

I'm pretty sloppy at the shambler dance but I can usually take a few at once without losing too much health- they're so big and reasonably easy to trick away from shooting at you.
Interestingly, I've found it takes just as many shots from the super-shotgun as it would from the rocket launcher to take them down- which probably makes this gun my choice for fighting them if I have no cells as you can only take potshots anyway (about 2 before he shoots back)- the nails and rockets are too precious against other monsters anyway.

Vores- 99 percent of the time I kill them in a few seconds by lobbing some grenades around the corner- because they're so big I rarely ever miss. Also, because they have such a big collision box I can actually shoot them safely around the corner.
I've found they're only dangerous in open areas, or are really far away.
Although without the disadvantages they would be pretty nasty indeed.

Their attacks do a fair bit of damage- but at worst you can usually afford to take it once or twice (possibly six times with armour), and unlike the fiends and spawn who swipe at you in a frenzy, these two monsters don't attack as often.

For me, fiends and spawns are the only monsters to consistently kill me even in good conditions. Plus, you really have to be on your toes and simply can't afford to let either attack you at all, unlike the others.

Oh, for mod monsters- probably the hardest, on reflection, is the Eliminator (upgraded enforcer) from Quoth- they seriously eat any player, monster or action hero for breakfast! I've barely survived taking them on! And they're nothing but enforcers with better guns (faster projectiles that explode- about four shots and you're out!)

Fiends are easy... you can do the shambler dance to feinds too.. and death knights as well... and ogres, but ogres are rarely a problem

[Radec]

The idea of two shots then take cover from Shamblers is abit out. I'm not sure about anyone else but after i completed Quake and the two Mission Packs, i went back to Quake to complete it on Nightmare. And to be honest, the only diffrence you can see without actully looking are the Ogre fires more grenades, Shamblers attack is faster and i'm not sure if this is true but i'm sure the Vores attack is more able to go round corners, thats why i've had such a difficult time running away from them.

The most difficult areas in the game (namely the last two levels of Episode 4) are waterd down by the amount of Santanic Rings and Quad Damages. Of course Shub-Niggurath's Pit has no powerups and its just about not waisting ammo since you need every nail and every cell to survive the first half of the fight. But in all honesty, I didnt find Nightmare too much more difficult than Hard apart from the small monster enhancements in the wrong enviroments.

As for the Shambler Dance, i admit i never really tried it accept one time where i did it without getting hit once but if you got cells you might aswell fight him Thunder on Thunder.

The Vore like i said is the most terrfying enemy in the game when your running and you just gotta realise there is no way your going to get away from her voreball and accept the great amount of damage but also like Hazza said, its not the end of the world to get hit by it unless your really low on health.

If someone could tell me the a good custom maps, i think its about time i try them out. I'd prefer one with these so called Super-Vore to see just why the Vores have taken the vote. The more difficult it is, the more fun i find it.

And the_F0qer, i'm sorry but if you give us a video of you Death Knight dancing, without getting hit once, fighting him with the axe, i'll give you a million pounds. I'm not having a go but i dont think its possible since he moves much faster than you.

[foq]

I did say Shambler without getting hit once, but I should be able to DK too.

[foq]

And the_F0qer, i'm sorry but if you give us a video of you Death Knight dancing, without getting hit once, fighting him with the axe, i'll give you a million pounds. I'm not having a go but i dont think its possible since he moves much faster than you.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Deg-Tv6vwU]YouTube - the_f0qer kills Death Knight with axe withoug getting hit once[/ame]

and here's the origional demo
foqdk.zip

[metchsteekle]

*looks at foq's avatar* Tron much?

[WarioN64]

Vores can be bitches at times. Grunts are the hardest.

[foq]

*looks at foq's avatar* Tron much?

Tron? No, that's Full Metal Alchemist.