RiftQuake

[MadGypsy]

hate it.

You seriously need to find someone to help you with this part. I'm being super duper blunt because I want you to realize this is killing your progress.

Putting a plate on a gun just to cover it in camo is the complete opposite of what you said just a few posts ago. I'm not gonna look for it but it summed up to:

"Sticking useless shit on a weapon to make it fancy is not the direction I want to go."

Have you ever had chinese food with cheese on it? Gravy on your ice cream? Hot sauce on your cereal?

Camo goes on the guy holding the gun.

[Dutch]

@gypsy: dammit I admire your honesty. I salute you.

You seriously need to find someone to help you with this part. I'm being super duper blunt because I want you to realize this is killing your progress.

Is there anyone with badass texturing skills who wants to volunteer? If not, then it's on me. I don't know anyone in real life who's into this kind of thing, so it would have to be someone on here. I'm not a full-time 3d modeler, or a coder, or a graphic designer. I'm doing the best I can with the time that I have. This won't be a professional game. It won't be flawless and not everyone is going to like everything about it. It would be great to have a small team of people with their own specializations. But as of right now, that's not the reality.

I never considered camo on a firearm to be useless shit. I have a shotgun with nothing but camo and I love it. I'm talking about the two dozen or so different pieces modeled onto the firearm. Look at Halo's 10th anniversary assault rifle and you'll see what I mean.

At any rate, here's what I have now.




EDIT: Just to put it in perspective, look at the assault rifle back when this mod just started out, compared to now. It may not be superb now, but it was complete garbage back then.

[gnounc]

I think that just about fixes my complaints. The pump is much better, and the texture is dark enough to not be jarring and ugly. I really like the overall shape of the gun, and the silhouette is great.

I do think you can and should remake the gun a dozen or so times. But do it later.
If you arent just a modeler making models to perfect his craft, thats a waste of time. you have real shit you could be getting done.

Do an art pass after the mod is completed. the gun looks pretty good right now, and working on it any more is slowing down coding (or modeling something else).

[MadGypsy]

Hey man, ya know, that actually looks pretty damn good. You pulled it off, bro. Changing the colors made all the difference in the world. [goes back and looks again]...Yup, that's bad-ass.

@I'm not a full-time 3d modeler, or a coder, or a graphic designer. I'm doing the best I can with the time that I have.

Dude, your stuff is good. It's just these gun textures that seem to be tripping you up but if you can maintain your most recent level of quality, I think you'll be alright.

@I'm doing the best I can with the time that I have.

My heart sunk when I read that. It reminded me of when I was an alcoholic loser and I used to verbally beat up my girlfriend. It usually ended with her saying "I'm doing the best I can". I'm not trying to reminisce about her though - when you wrote that i wondered if I'm verbally beating up my buddy. Just know that is not whats in my heart when I give you critique. You're like the only guy in forever here that I really believe is gonna finish a game. I have faith invested in you. I know that patting you on the back when something looks like shit is not doing you any favors. I also suck at wording things politely.

That post you read wasn't even the real post. After like 20 edits of trying to say my opinion gracefully and failing, I just said fuck it...hate it. Cause I did hate it but, you much improved it.

I never considered camo on a firearm to be useless shit. I have a shotgun with nothing but camo and I love it. I'm talking about the two dozen or so different pieces modeled onto the firearm. Look at Halo's 10th anniversary assault rifle and you'll see what I mean

Heard. To me, "useless shit" is anything that doesn't have a use.

PS> I'm not a graphic artist at all. I think I have a pretty good eye for things, an artistic sense, but If I made textures for your weapons they would be too sad to even post. If you went around and looked at my older posts you would see my editor of choice is MSPaint. and I'll draw the hell out of some arrows (cause my images are of me pointing to code...LOL). Look at this Picasso

[Nickelbawker]

Camo is useful, but at the same time I can hide better in my brown clothes than if I wear 2003ish style digital camo above on the gun... Serves no purpose in castle setting as well, green money colored camo lol.

I tried to sneak around in the dark in ACU's and holy shit the moon lights those ******s up. Better off with solid green and brown is even better.

[talisa]

new texture looks great

with new darker colors it looks a million times better

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just like gypsy said... now that looks positively badass

[MadGypsy]

Just to put it in perspective, look at the assault rifle back when this mod just started out

I think the gun in that image is awesome. You can't compare these models. You started off vanilla and that is a perfectly fine vanilla weapon. I understand the contrast you are trying to create but, up until your very last post, your vanilla weapons were the best stuff you made so far.

[Nickelbawker]

Personally I think he should try to put 3 different versions of the shotgun available because I would like to take that black one and make it look like it was used in a Apocalypse for years.


edit; oh wait is this a second weapon, my bad lol.. so the black shotgun is the final one?

[Dutch]

I think that just about fixes my complaints. The pump is much better, and the texture is dark enough to not be jarring and ugly. I really like the overall shape of the gun, and the silhouette is great.

Do an art pass after the mod is completed. the gun looks pretty good right now, and working on it any more is slowing down coding (or modeling something else).

Good to hear, thanks man. I think that's a good idea.

My heart sunk when I read that. It reminded me of when I was an alcoholic loser and I used to verbally beat up my girlfriend. It usually ended with her saying "I'm doing the best I can". I'm not trying to reminisce about her though - when you wrote that i wondered if I'm verbally beating up my buddy. Just know that is not whats in my heart when I give you critique.

Hey buddy it is all good. I don't want you to think I was offended or anything. Believe me when I say that your input is valued more than you can imagine. And I can absolutely count on you to tell me when something is good, or if it's bad and I need to go back and make it better. I appreciate that man, and you don't have to worry about sugar-coating anything. I have a pretty thick skin and at this point, you've already proved to be really helpful and a good bud. No worries man.

You're like the only guy in forever here that I really believe is gonna finish a game. I have faith invested in you. I know that patting you on the back when something looks like shit is not doing you any favors. I also suck at wording things politely.

That means a lot hearing that, thanks. I know you've been around here for long enough to see things fade away or die or people give up. I'm gonna see this thing through and your support is awesome.

@talisa: thanks for the tip on adjusting the colors and the filter over the camo! glad you like it now

@nickelbawker: yeah this latest weapon is the .300 BLK Stinger assault rifle. It's a full-auto rifle firing my latest favorite cartridge, the Blackout. The military's been tossing around the idea of fading out the 5.56 NATO in favor of the .300 BLK because of the stopping power, and it is also compliant with current Armalite platform rifle components. I thought it would be cool to put in the game.

Here's how the shotgun ended up looking like. Like gnounc said, it will probably be modified in an art pass before the game is officially released.

....Ok nevermind. Imgur is having problems and it won't upload. I'll add it to this post later when it works. It's a little different in color, but not radically different.

Anyway, working on the arms/hands for the viewweapon models right now. I'm going to have to work on some basic rigging and animating, it's a good place to start.

[MadGypsy]

I have a hand you can have. I can make a rig for it in about 5 minutes too. Actually, I could make a rig for it in one second cause I have like 5 different rigs hanging around. The only problem is, you have to wait til Monday. Ive already got one foot in the bed and I have a bunch of shit to do tomorrow (Sunday).

That means a lot hearing that, thanks. I know you've been around here for long enough to see things fade away or die or people give up. I'm gonna see this thing through

Aside from In The Shadows I haven't seen somebody complete something yet on the level of an entire game.

and your support is awesome.

No doubt, I'm like the best cheerleader ever! Rah Rah Rah...That sucks! Yaaaaay! [jumps around using disembodied heads as pom-poms]

[Dutch]

He got his though. It's Jazzfest and I didn't make it to work today. I promise you it was a disaster.

Lmfao there you go! Yeah that sounds like total bullshit.

I have a hand you can have. I can make a rig for it in about 5 minutes too. Actually, I could make a rig for it in one second cause I have like 5 different rigs hanging around. The only problem is, you have to wait til Monday. Ive already got one foot in the bed and I have a bunch of shit to do tomorrow (Sunday).

Badass, thanks man. No worries on the wait, I have plenty to do lol.

[MadGypsy]

For anyone that doesn't get where Dutch got that top quote. I erased a bunch of me rambling and I must have done it about the same time he was quoting it.

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I'll have a rigged and ready hand for you on Monday. Maybe even first thing on Monday if I'm feeling especially dutiful. I can give you the arm too but you are gonna have a bit of work to detail it. I don't have a good detailed arm model. Actually the hand will need work as well but the hardest stuff is complete.

I saw a pretty decent hand/arm model somewhere online. It might even be exactly what you want. If I can find it again I'll rig it for you. I think it was on turbo squid and I think it was 9$ maybe even 5$. If that's all it was, I got your back.

[MadGypsy]

found it. it's 29$
3d arm sculpt model

[MadGypsy]

oh wait, screw that arm. This one is 19$ and I think it looks a lot better.
3d arm male






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here's a free one that even come with a gun.
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/...ds-free/434101




Maybe you should get on TuboSquid and get some arms you like, then send me a copy an I'll rig it. These models are better than what I have.

[Spike]

handy.
also, reminds me of halflife for some reason. could do with a normalmap