Tzunami: GPL Quake Client Development

[d1554573r]

Halo alike hud and watch are awsome if u got a badass modeler on board...

[d1554573r]

okey, i tried some of my earlier concepts and they were weak...

Here is an example of the first one i actually like:



Transparent circle in the middle can be used for ammo display or face, red thing around is obviously health bar, cubes around hp stand for armor.

Left side: cube in the middle displays current weapon the ones around - available weapons.

Also it would be cool to implement the sounds of that hearth bpm measuring device they got in hospitals (ekg?) for hp info,
also blood splaters across the screen and glass cracks would be nice. I loved that cracked hud in fear2 after been killed...


v2 colors and materials will change its just a preview

[bFeared]

it also has a b-movie story line, almost a one liner

"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important." -John Carmack

@d1554573r I'll take a stab at the HUD. Are you aiming for something modern or more towards quake style?
If you don't mind, anyways.

[Baker]

For any HUD attempts to get engine coded for demonstration purposes, a mock screenshot with the HUD elements overlayed onto Quake screenshot needs to be made so I or someone else knows how to code it:



^^ You can use that screen shot with no HUD elements displaying as an example, if you wish.

As an example:

[Baker]

okey, i tried some of my earlier concepts and they were weak...

Here is an example of the first one i actually like: ...

Yeah, I need you to post a mock-up.

(Heartbeats ... could be done as an option ... there are GPL sounds for just such a feature floating around out there.)

@d1554573r I'll take a stab at the HUD. Are you aiming for something modern or more towards quake style?
If you don't mind, anyways.

It's d1554573r's thread, but at the same time any conceptualized HUD ideas are good things. First, making a HUD isn't easy. Second, great ideas could be combined or what not.

I'd say the challenge of making a quality new age HUD is probably a 9 of 10. High ideas are easier to have in the head than translate to a high quality experience ... I bet even a successful HUD idea that works well might require as many as 25 tweaks to get it "right".

[luizera]

Would be nice to have something like Street Fighters health bars . Just wondering...

[R00k]

the bars could be done in the engine with opengl routines an no media required. Even with numerical values printed at the end

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[lxndr]

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I had maxed out dp settings

Looks like something familiar.. this is super cute.

[lxndr]

I've always thought the Halflife 2 HUD was very tidy:

http://static.computergames.ro/cg/as...sodetwo112.jpg

Basic, but still effective.

Also note the health and ammo levels are shown around the crosshair.

I second that. Just the right infos at the right place, no distractive colors or animations, minimalist, effective and pretty.

[d1554573r]

I'm thinking about intelligent hud, that displays the currently needed info, like when You are in a fight the circle shows hp and ammo, when You rnt it would show mini-map or something else .

Tbh making hud turned out way harder then i initially expected.

[MH]

I'm thinking about intelligent hud, that displays the currently needed info, like when You are in a fight the circle shows hp and ammo, when You rnt it would show mini-map or something else .

That's quite a neat idea. I'd wonder though if, during a busy game, the constant HUD changing would get distracting or annoying.

[bFeared]

Alright, here's my try at the hud.

It's modern and reminds me much of Halo, will definitively need tweaks.
But my main goal was to make a hud that was easy to tell whats going on without having to look in several different corners of your screen for information. (many games do this, very annoying)

http://i34.tinypic.com/n3qfl5.jpg

Tell me what you think.

[R00k]

That's quite a neat idea. I'd wonder though if, during a busy game, the constant HUD changing would get distracting or annoying.

TBH, I really dont look at the hud that often during heavy gameplay. I always take health and items unless a teammate is nearby, i almost NEVER look at the inventory bar, because the bestweapon command is lead into two key binds so i always have my best of longrange and shortrange weapons available. I know what weapons i have, its like a poker hand but with 8 cards (nailgun is useless it doesnt count). I like the minimap popup idea, maybe triggered in dark areas, or when a flashlight is enabled. Minimalist hud could also give way to other cues about the information it presents. Health could be red hues in the corners of the screen, sound of heavy breathing, or gradual blurring of the image border. Ammo could be a degradation of the recoil animation speed. Or a clicking sound, when fired. weapon in hand could be a different crosshair for each weapon. In all, a hud doesnt have to be confined to a horizontal image but a combination of events that allow the player the information about his/her current state.

[d1554573r]

weapon in hand could be a different crosshair for each weapon.

brilliant idea...

combination of events that allow the player the information about his/her current state

Thats the point of intelligent hud , smart hud, shud or w/e we will call it from now on.

About available weapons they could be displayed only at the moment You switch weapons. You dont need this info all the time after all.

Concept:

[gnounc]

I'd like just a number showing total ammo for currently selected weapon.

You know which weapons you have, You know what kind of ammo they take so showing the icons is stupid. If the mod or whatever has reload, you should be counting your shots anyways. I know what you're thinking, did i fire seven shots or six?

Also if its a mod, they can have their own specially designed hud if they think something
like that is important.

You dont need an icon or anything saying what kind of weapon it is either..its in your damned hand, just look.

What rune you have could be important in runequake and the like, i would look for a way to display 4 states (if not the runes themselves)

Armor could be a glove on the charactor model. Since the armor is color coded you would have a green yellow and red hand for each v_weap.
maybe a qc patch to change skin based on damage, adding cracks to the armor.
or simpler, just have it yellow when you have armor, and brown when you dont.
if you have a decent idea of how much damage you're taking (which you should) it wont
be a big issue.

Health could just be the color or faintness of your reticle...but i hate crosshairs.
Then again i really liked halo 1's hud all around it was great crosshairs included.

Really the more subtle the better, the more the player has to rely on internally keeping track of stuff like damage received and actually knowing the game by feel, the better that player will be. It should be intuition mostly, you really only need to know when shits about to blow up. Screen should get red, blood trails could start, gun goes click etc. If everythings fine theres really no need for all that info, except the player DOES need SOMETHING to look at, just to not feel abandoned. But they really dont need all the clutter most games hand out.