New DM server?

[Grim]

*cough*
Back on topic maybe?

Aww cmon. This is great reading.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

phenom was a fuck at ihoc,and has turned into a fuck again. did somebody forget to mention that?

Baker is now phenom's floozy,sort of like phenom being the fonzi (but not half as cool), and phenom snaps his fingers,and among other,Baker follows suit.

and just so Baker understands,I was there during the before CAx was dusted off and Bam began encoding stuff into it,and I was there during it.I hounded Vis for a month to get the caplus mod for phenom prior to Bam even being in the picture or CAx... I helped with all of that testing,but its not a big deal,I can really care less anymore. Baker and Phenom have really went to shit in my book.

I'd rather hold a tounge in cheek nice-conversation with Bank now days as opposed to having anything to do with either of you,and I hate Bank with a passion <3

[Baker]

just so Baker understands,I was there during the before CAx was dusted off and Bam began encoding stuff into it,and I was there during it.

You don't need to tell me because I know. Bomber was joint thing between you and Phenom and you 2 and Bam were working on it constantly, plus you found the sanity map.

[Canadian*Sniper]

Good idea Frenzy. I'm done listening to these babies.

Here's a text file of suggestions I sent Phenom about a week ago. These were just ideas off the top of my head and it would be good to hear opinions on them since I don't like biased thoughts. These ideas are very abstract as well and I feel like changing some of them but there's no point until there's feedback.

btw we've already established that you can't please everyone with weaponstay

edit:

I should add that the purpose of these ideas would be to increase the numbers of DEATHS in DEATHmatch :]

[l33t]

what the fuck is wrong with you people.

[Mindf!3ldzX]

Good idea Frenzy. I'm done listening to these babies.

Here's a text file of suggestions I sent Phenom about a week ago. These were just ideas off the top of my head and it would be good to hear opinions on them since I don't like biased thoughts. These ideas are very abstract as well and I feel like changing some of them but there's no point until there's feedback.

btw we've already established that you can't please everyone with weaponstay

edit:

I should add that the purpose of these ideas would be to increase the numbers of DEATHS in DEATHmatch :]

Goodluck attracting any of the hardcore DM players with those kind of modifications. DeathMatch in itself, aka "DM" , shouldnt have RuneQuake style modifications. dm.quakeone.com has a better chance of getting the attention of mainstream DM'rs even with the "walljumping" for a pub or non-crmod style of connect&play style DM action. All those powerup and weapon etc modifications would make it less of DM,and more of some heavily modified DM that would have little if no appeal to the current DM quakers at crmod.com

[Phenom]

Lets all dress alike and have lunch at the same time so we can order the exact same meal everyday!

Change is good! it just takes time!

Rage was different at one point. it seems to be doing just fine now

Maybe were not trying to reach the handful of 10 year DM vets, I'm sure theres alternative servers they could play at

[Mindf!3ldzX]

rage didnt have the weapons all fucked with either now did it?

while your at it,add alt-weapons like sticky bombs and gas grenades that will surely gain some attention.

[Phenom]

Personally, Rage isn't innovative at all, its a clone, except for warping to Q1edge every now and then. I'm not sure what map(s) people play there as I am still banned even thought I was told that a letter of apologie to would fix things. I guess some people just lie heh, damn you Vis!

[QuadRaptor]

Nothing new there as far as maps go, actually. Just DM3, DM3, DM3.

As a matter of fact, I haven't seen a map change there in a while now.

[omicron]

Wow and you think your shitty server "dredd" is SO INOVATIVE because you run a bunch of shitty maps no one likes or cares about?

This is why you're a bunch of runequake scrubs and none of the dmers would ever step foot on your dead ass future fake dm server.

Thanks but no thanks, you've already ruined CA and I don't think any DMers myself included would let you touch DM or even give your shitty server the time of day. Stick to your newb community where you belong. Why don't you all just join TU and suck each other off? Scrubs.

[R00k]

I think the idea would be should it be FFA or TDM?

With Team DeathMatch, what you'd have is all the elite deathmatch players comming out of the woodwork, stacking teams etc. I'd find it less accepted by the general public in this case simply because most players would find themself as the "new guy", on a team of blatent pros. The reason dm isnt played is because it's hard for new players to get accociated with it, because they get their ass handed to them so easily. A Free For ALL, is just that, every man for himself. I think it would be a faster paced game, (no waiting for every1 to ready up), and would have more acceptance. This would make DM more popular and from there players could move to a crmod server.

One thing that ctf pub games had over dm pub games was the "connect and go" style of being placed on the loosing team, or the team with the fewest players. Also, automap rotation is nice too. Weaponstay is basically PMODE, and that kinda get boring, but so does running around with a shotgun. Maybe reduce the respawn times of weapons by half?

Ah, to hell with all this, let's just play some CTF!


p.s. omicron's comment is the exact elitest dm player mentality that would be presented to all new players on a sever that hosts TDM. PRO's vs Scrubs. I think FFA would be best for its simplicity and you'd have 15 other people to shoot at.

[omicron]

Im down for ctf but you cant convince these fucking scrubs to disconnect from rage long enough to join a ctf server, not to mention 99% of them suck at ctf.

The problem is very simple. You have a bunch of good players that want to play good, fun mods. And then you have a bunch of fucking newbs that play CA and runequake all day long that can't even install the CTF maps. You can't push a mod on a shitty uncooperative community. CTF is buried until the DMers revive it

[Canadian*Sniper]

@Mindz' post on post #51 - You are right about that but Phenom asked me for a DM server that was nerfed to attract newcomers. So that's what I came up with

[omicron]

I think the idea would be should it be FFA or TDM?

With Team DeathMatch, what you'd have is all the elite deathmatch players comming out of the woodwork, stacking teams etc. I'd find it less accepted by the general public in this case simply because most players would find themself as the "new guy", on a team of blatent pros. The reason dm isnt played is because it's hard for new players to get accociated with it, because they get their ass handed to them so easily. A Free For ALL, is just that, every man for himself. I think it would be a faster paced game, (no waiting for every1 to ready up), and would have more acceptance. This would make DM more popular and from there players could move to a crmod server.

One thing that ctf pub games had over dm pub games was the "connect and go" style of being placed on the loosing team, or the team with the fewest players. Also, automap rotation is nice too. Weaponstay is basically PMODE, and that kinda get boring, but so does running around with a shotgun. Maybe reduce the respawn times of weapons by half?

Ah, to hell with all this, let's just play some CTF!


p.s. omicron's comment is the exact elitest dm player mentality that would be presented to all new players on a sever that hosts TDM. PRO's vs Scrubs. I think FFA would be best for its simplicity and you'd have 15 other people to shoot at.

Actually I just have experience with these people who think they are going to make every single fun mod in quake "newbie-compatible" and I've been trying to stress for a fucking long time now that this is NOT POSSIBLE. Quake 1 IN AND OF ITSELF is NOT NEWBIE COMPATIBLE. You can't destroy every mod to get new players to it, then there's no point of even playing the shit. This was done to Ca in the form of CaX and look what happened. All the good players quit, rage is overrun by newbies which I hear are now migrating to the dredd server. This happened to CTF too, the only popular ctf version was newbie ctf @ intertex and it died because the newbies couldn't play real ctf on other ctf servers after it went down.

I can't wait until shmack goes down and all those retards are too stupid to even find a new quake server to play at. Half of them are fucked up in the head, everytime I connect to that shitass server surfer**** is spamming about "health hacks" half of them can't even fucking speak proper english.

My conclusion is the weak mods of quake are for those who are weak of mind. This is why on the RQ server you see nothing but retards and for a long time before Dredd started taking away the retards Rage was also full of these same retards.