Doug caught aimbotting on speaknow. Discuss.

[mithril]

I don't like the idea of making someone use a closed source client...thats like taking a step backwards. Open clients are always better and I bet this closed client only runs on windows or something.

I don't believe that demo one bit since 99% of it is omi playing and the other 1% doesn't really show anything conclusive about doug.

The last few weeks I've been studying to the network code and there WILL BE a mixed-mode cheat-free where anyone can connect with any client, but cheat-free mode clients are noted vs. non-cheat-free mode.

Baker, maybe you should write up some specs on the proquake network protocol since I was looking for some docs a while back and it seems its not documented at all. I know proquake has made a lot of changes to the network protocol over the original quake and I think it'd be nice to have it documented somewhere for other game developers.

Also, if you're planning on making changes to the network protocol, it might be worthwhile getting input from other developers because there are definitely possibilities for optimizing the protocol to use less bandwidth (quakeworld has already done this). I would suggest writing up a complete spec sheet for your new proposed protocol and let others have a look so they can suggest ways to optimize it, etc.

[Doug`]

Demo at challenge-tv

I posted a demo from yesterday's game on challenge-tv. This will show that i wasn't botting like omi is saying in the demo. He just likes to start shit out of nowhere and this proves that he's full of shit about all he's accusations towards me. Also, watch the final round of the second game, i know it's probably over 5min long, but i'd like your opinion on this. Omi jumps down from the bridge shafting and his shaft goes from my team mate in the water to me instantly, dead on. Something odd there if you ask me. Take a look

Doug

[Baker]

I don't like the idea of making someone use a closed source client...thats like taking a step backwards. Open clients are always better and I bet this closed client only runs on windows or something.

If you want to get technical, GLQuake and WinQuake are closed source clients.

That is why I had to fix a chasecam bug in wqpro that isn't present in WinQuake and GLQuake has r_mirroralpha support but ProQuake does not.

Baker, maybe you should write up some specs on the proquake network protocol since I was looking for some docs a while back and it seems its not documented at all. I know proquake has made a lot of changes to the network protocol over the original quake and I think it'd be nice to have it documented somewhere for other game developers.

Maybe when I'm done. I have to say I wish all of this stuff existed, it would make things easier for me.

Also, if you're planning on making changes to the network protocol, it might be worthwhile getting input from other developers because there are definitely possibilities for optimizing the protocol to use less bandwidth (quakeworld has already done this). I would suggest writing up a complete spec sheet for your new proposed protocol and let others have a look so they can suggest ways to optimize it, etc.

I might do this. And yes, I've been thinking about reducing the bandwidth considerably, but not using Quakeworld's method but using Quake 3's method.

It is my understanding that Quake 3 sends only new information about what has changed each frame.

But this is veering off course.

[foq]

I posted a demo from yesterday's game on challenge-tv. This will show that i wasn't botting like omi is saying in the demo. He just likes to start shit out of nowhere and this proves that he's full of shit about all he's accusations towards me. Also, watch the final round of the second game, i know it's probably over 5min long, but i'd like your opinion on this. Omi jumps down from the bridge shafting and his shaft goes from my team mate in the water to me instantly, dead on. Something odd there if you ask me. Take a look

Doug

WTF, if you want to be all formal like you're obviously trying to be, remember that when you talk about yourself, it's a capital I, not i.

[Doug`]

lol

Foquer, lol, you have nothing better to do then to correct a stupid grammer mistake.... rofl, get a life, it's not the grammer that's important here , shut up

"i" dont give a shit what you say.

Doug

[Stung]

it's "nothing better to do than ", as in greater than, larger than; then represents a transition in state or time. if x, then y.

e.g. if glucose combusts, then it results in carbon dioxide and water.
Oh, and eat dicks you undereducated cumbubble. Haze just said you were togglebotting on speaknow. Good to know some pricks don't ever change.

[omix2]

Now look at what he's saying. Because he has a demo of himself playing legit, that means before, when he was caught botting, he was playing legit.

This is all slippery slope logic into allowing cheaters back into our midst after being caught.

[Stung]

haha yeah. It's a nice and cute "weak analogy". So because on 9/11/00 planes didn't fly into the World Trade Center towers, this means they didn't on 9/11/01.

You have to love that kind of idiocy.

[foq]

Cumbubble. Good one.

[Doug`]

lol

Omi are you retarded? YOU accused me of botting yesterday and " i " have the demo that proves you otherwise and also has evidence of you bot'n. Pay attention.

The demo just show's how you always accuse me of bot'n everytime i own u. It makes you look like an idiot because you are wrong, last time and this time, just stfu already. TY

Your Master
Doug

[foq]

Someone help me pick out a monitor for this guy. Do you think a 21" CRT is big enough to knock some sense into him?

[Doug`]

Stung, it's sad to see people so gullible as you. Haze is just another omi, when he gets owned, he cries and the only thing he can say is "bot". That seems to be a popular thing to do nowadays, you guys are so hard headed that you can't even admit defeat when it's clearly evident. Keep resorting to accusing me of botting because it hurts you too bad to say the truth.

[mithril]

Good to know some pricks don't ever change.

This is not a complete English sentence, oh grammar king.

[Stung]

I was only correcting Doug out of facetiousness. Seriously mithril, you didn't catch on to the joke? Christ people are such concrete thinkers in 2008. If IQs have indeed gone up .32 points per year since 1918, I'd hate to have to experience the level of retardation that went on back then. If you can't extrapolate the pragmatic meaning from that sentence, which infers [It is], then I suggest you take a flying fucking leap off a short pier.

And yes I am the grammar king; I believe a 35 on the ACTs in 2000 pretty much speaks for itself.

[Rampage]

In the end, it's only Quake.